Don't tell me you didn't see the name of the list when you subscribed: Naturally, All Nuts Over Guns
? Jason On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Mike Rae <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi All : > > How is this an operational related discussion ? > > Perhaps it can be taken to more appropriate forum. > > thanks > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Olsen [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:15 AM > To: Andrew Kirch; [email protected] > Subject: re: [SPAM-Low] Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet > access a"human right" > > I've got a 4 inch Springfield XD service model in .45ACP, I actually > prefer > the .40 round. Its a bit better at inducing Hydrostatic shock just > because > of its velocity:energy ratio. > The handgun just to get me to the bigger guns :D > > -Nick Olsen > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "Andrew Kirch" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:42 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SPAM-Low] Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a > > "human right" > > nothing like 40 short and wimpy! Might I interest you in a 45? :) > > On 6/6/2011 11:37 AM, Nick Olsen wrote: > > Don't leave the house without my Glock 23 on my side. Truck always has > a > > > loaded 12ga in it. In the house, I've got a handful of pistols and my > > SR-556 (AR-15) in the "Guns and servers" closet. > > I've had people call me Paranoid more then once. My stance is "Better > to > > > have it and not need it, Then need it and not have it." > > By banning guns from a community, Your only taking them out of the > hands > of > > law abiding citizens. Not like most criminals get guns via legal > channels > > > in the first place. > > > > -Nick Olsen > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: "Daniel Seagraves" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:34 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a "human > > right" > > > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > >> Nice try, but the human right you just made a case for is "the right > to > > > rid > >> yourself of criminals and despots". A "fundamental right" for > citizens > > > to have > >> firearms does *not* automatically follow. Yes, despots usually need > to > > > be > >> removed by force. What Ghandi showed was that the force didn't have > to > > > be > >> military - there are other types of force that work well too... > > I believe that as a law-abiding citizen, I should have the right to be > at > > > least as well-armed as the average criminal. If the average criminal > has > > > access to firearms, then I should have that option as well. I should > not > be > > forced into a disadvantage against criminals by virtue of my > compliance > > with the law. Once law enforcement is effective enough to prevent the > > average criminal from having access to firearms, then the law-abiding > > population can be compelled to disarm. This stance can result in an > > escalation scenario in which criminals strive to remain better-armed > than > > > their intended victims, but the job of law enforcement is to prevent > them > > > from being successful. > > > > At present, the average criminal in my area does not have firearms, > and > so > > I do not own one. Gun crime is on the increase, however, so this > situation > > may change. > > > > > > > >
