Pros - small footprint, cost, feature rich
Cons - no redundancy (other than power), 1/3rd the processor power

Paul


On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, chavan sanjay wrote:

Hi Team,
 
Can anyone enlighten me on the pros and cons of MX 80 platform
 
Thanks

Sanjay C.P.

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Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 5:30 PM


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 11:34:11 -0300
From: Rogelio <[email protected]>
Subject: cheapo UUFB solution for Cisco 7201
To: [email protected]
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I've got a Cisco 7201 with about 500 L2TPv2 tunnels, and I suspect
that UUFB (unknown unicast flooding) is resulting in spiking (I put an
ACL on to kill broadcast traffic, so I'm sure that's not related).
I've googled and don't see anything for the 7201, just the 7600
series.  :/

i.e. 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7600/ios/12.2SR/configuration/guide/blocking.html

Anyone have any suggestions on (something cheap) that I can put in
front of this box to spare it from (what I suspect) is a gateway that
unicast floods when a MAC address has aged?

To add to my challenges, I'm in Brazil and importing gear is insanely
effing difficult.  :/

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:40:56 -0400
From: Curtis Maurand <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Firewall Appliance Suggestions
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 6/30/2011 12:20 PM, Suresh Rajagopalan wrote:
Linux + iptables + fwbuilder



On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Blake T. Pfankuch<[email protected]>  wrote:
Howdy,
                 I am looking for something a little unique in a bit of a tough situation with some 
sticky requirements.  First off, my requirements are a little weird and I can't bend them a whole 
lot due to stipulations being put on me.  I am in need a firewall appliance which can be run on 
VMware vSphere, with IPSEC support for multiple Phase 2 negotiations within a single Phase 1.  I am 
also in need of something that can support VLAN interfaces on the LAN side, and ideally something 
with multi zoning so I can keep LAN side networks separate from each without ridiculous firewall 
rules.  Meaning build a zone for "Customer network 1" and it displays separately (ease of 
management and firewall config hopefully).  I need a minimum of 10 "zones" on LAN side 
(/29 or /30), and NAT support for LAN to WAN (to dedicate all outbound connections to a single IP 
from a specific zone), ideally something extremely scalable (100-200 zones).  And here
is the super fun part!  I need something that is going to be web managed 
primarily as minions will be doing most of the day to day maintenance, or very 
simple CLI config.  Willing to pay for something if need be, but looking for 
something that can easily handly 50-100mbit of throughput.

Any Ideas?

Thanks!

Blake Pfankuch

Vyatta.  They have an appliance on their website.

--Curtis




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 00:58:51 +0200
From: "Jean CLERY" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Firewall Appliance Suggestions
To: "'Curtis Maurand'" <[email protected]>,    <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <F7819E52D830406983C30BC43FAD7E3D@ezekiel>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Blake
Try www.netasq.com

Regards,
Jean CLERY


-----Message d'origine-----
De?: Curtis Maurand [mailto:[email protected]]
Envoy??: lundi 4 juillet 2011 23:41
??: [email protected]
Objet?: Re: Firewall Appliance Suggestions

On 6/30/2011 12:20 PM, Suresh Rajagopalan wrote:
Linux + iptables + fwbuilder



On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Blake T. Pfankuch<[email protected]>
wrote:
Howdy,
                 I am looking for something a little unique in a bit of a
tough situation with some sticky requirements.  First off, my requirements
are a little weird and I can't bend them a whole lot due to stipulations
being put on me.  I am in need a firewall appliance which can be run on
VMware vSphere, with IPSEC support for multiple Phase 2 negotiations within
a single Phase 1.  I am also in need of something that can support VLAN
interfaces on the LAN side, and ideally something with multi zoning so I can
keep LAN side networks separate from each without ridiculous firewall rules.
Meaning build a zone for "Customer network 1" and it displays separately
(ease of management and firewall config hopefully).  I need a minimum of 10
"zones" on LAN side (/29 or /30), and NAT support for LAN to WAN (to
dedicate all outbound connections to a single IP from a specific zone),
ideally something extremely scalable (100-200 zones).  And here is the super
fun part!  I need something that is going to be web managed primarily as
minions will be doing most of the day to day maintenance, or very simple CLI
config.  Willing to pay for something if need be, but looking for something
that can easily handly 50-100mbit of throughput.

Any Ideas?

Thanks!

Blake Pfankuch

Vyatta.  They have an appliance on their website.

--Curtis





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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 00:50:45 -0400
From: Peter Nowak <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Firewall Appliance Suggestions
To: Blake T. Pfankuch <[email protected]>
Cc: "NANOG \([email protected]\)" <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii

They don't have a VM yet - coming soon - but you may take a look at Palo Alto 
Networks. Having just a regular stateful firewall is not a good idea anymore...

Peter Nowak

On Jul 1, 2011, at 12:35 AM, Blake T. Pfankuch wrote:

Normally I would agree with you as far as separate instances, however this will 
be in a situation where we pay ridiculous amounts for cpu and memory, so a 
single instance is what we are shooting for (remember those ridiculous 
requirements).  I am planning to do some further testing with vyatta and 
pfsense.  Thanks you all for the on list and off list responses!

-----Original Message-----
From: Sargun Dhillon [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:56 PM
To: George Bonser
Cc: Blake T. Pfankuch; NANOG ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Firewall Appliance Suggestions



----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bonser" <[email protected]>
To: "Blake T. Pfankuch" <[email protected]>, "NANOG ([email protected])"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:30:53 AM
Subject: RE: Firewall Appliance Suggestions

Willing to pay for something if need be, but looking for something
that can easily handly 50-100mbit of throughput.

Any Ideas?

Thanks!

Blake Pfankuch


I might also look at Vyatta.  They have appliances or you can run the
software on your own hardware.







I would not go with Vyatta if you're doing anything complex. The number of 
random bugs I've hit with their software are numerous. In the right hands, it's 
a powerful tool. And it seems to fit your solution really well.

If I were in your shoes, I would install two instances that would handle the 
"edge" of the cluster, and then an instance per customer (lightweight, they 
sell a VMWare image). Then use dynamic routing to direct traffic to the customer (assign 
each customer their own ASN, and peer with their instance). So, worse case scenario, the 
NOC monkey only breaks one customer's gear.


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