----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fairlight" <fairl...@fairlite.com>
> Unless someone dumbs down and jails their environment for them, which > I'm staunchly against for anything except ftp or sftp use. This is, um, the *filePro* mailing list. Quick: who on here has ever set up a Unix user to go directly into a filePro menu? :-) > My belief is that if you can't configure a simple terminal emulator, you're > quite possibly a menace with an operating system a few hundred times as > complex. All the chmod 0777 monkeys out there haven't done anything but > reinforce my opinion over the years. There are some notable exceptions, > but I'm wary of putting non-technical people in front of an actual shell > prompt. Yup. Why I never do it. > And I've never been a fan of pseudo-jailed environments. I've yet to> find > one I can't find -some- way out of (including at a bank, who> overlooked > the fact that WordPerfect had a shell escape buried in it!), and> admins > place way too much trust in the stupidity of the users they fool into > thinking their access is limited. Sorry, changing the prompt to look > like a several-choice menu is -not- security. (Yes, I know a company that > does this.) Ha. :-) In practice, in 20 years, on well over 500 seats, I *never* had a problem. Never. > But I'd never let someone near my own box if they can't even configure > a PuTTY connection to it. Oh, -hell- no. :) Strawman. Wasn't suggesting that you should. See again the name of this list ;-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274