On Sep 17, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Randy Carpenter wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> All of the speculation and comment on this thread has been something >> to watch, but, it's not actually all that accurate. >> >> https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four2 >> >> NRPM 4.2 provides several ways in which an ISP can qualify for space >> >> As has been mentioned in this thread, efficiently using a PA >> allocation >> from an upstream provider is one such mechanism. (4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2). >> >> However, if you can show an immediate need for a /22 or more within >> the next 30 days (not particularly hard if you are building an ISP), >> you >> can qualify under 4.2.1.6 without any prior utilization. >> >> I know of a number of ISPs that have obtained their initial >> allocations in >> this manner. >> >> Owen > > I have a small ISP customer who is not multi-homed, and is using about a /21 > and a half of space, and is expanding. Their upstream is refusing to give > them more space, so they wanted to get their own, and give back the space to > the upstream, with the possible exception of a small block for their servers, > which would be very difficult to renumber. We explained this all, and the > response we got from ARIN was that we needed to have a full /20 from the > upstream, at which time we could easily get a /20 of new space. In order to > qualify for the immediate need, we would need to show need for the entire > /20, of which we would need to fully utilize (renumber into) within 30 days. > That is not even remotely possible. >
Or, they could easily multihome and qualify at a much smaller threshold. > The problem with this whole thing is that I have no less than 4 ISPs that are > in almost the same boat. Then propose a policy change to rectify it. Owen
