Is that is needed, what is wrong with that ?

Isn't MPLS a form of encapsulation ? Don't the enterprise folks run routing 
protocols on it ?

With carriers today it is very common to deliver L2 connectivity over L3 
networks.

One does not have to like it...and just because someone else (upstream) does it 
for one, it does not mean it is wrong......just the nature of networks and 
growth, solving problems with the available set of tools...

Faisal

On Mar 14, 2012, at 12:40 AM, chris <tknch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> next lets encapsulate bgp over http next so we can run bgp at wifi hotspots
> :)
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Frank Bulk <frnk...@iname.com> wrote:
> 
>> One possible avenue is put a router/computer in a colo and build a GRE
>> tunnel over your FiOS connection to the data center, and then "peer" with
>> folk there.
>> 
>> Frank
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Justin M. Streiner [mailto:strei...@cluebyfour.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:27 PM
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?
>> 
>> All:
>> 
>> I realize this might be a bit of a fool's errand, but I'm trying to
>> determine if Verizon will speak BGP with FiOS business customers.  Their
>> website is relatively lean on details.  Everything that mentions BGP
>> points to VZB services, which does not appear to include FiOS.  Looking at
>> the routing table, I do see several non-VZ ASNs downstream of AS19262, so
>> it looks like it might be possible.
>> 
>> If that is the case, could anyone lend any insight to get past the "what
>> is BGP?" response that likely awaits from their salescritters?
>> 
>> jms
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

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