Very good points. Having been in the WISP industry for more than 10 years now. I know WISPs who have thousands of customers and only 1 or 2 class C addresses. The need for public routable IP addresses is not that much of a concern for them. Plus, a good majority of WISP equipment does not support IPV6.
Sure a WISP is technically an ISP but, like Faisal says, its a much different business. Justin -----Original Message----- From: Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net> Reply-To: <fai...@snappydsl.net> Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:29 PM To: <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: IPv6 Ignorance >Let me shed some light here..... (Being familiar with both >communities... Nanog and WISP's ) > >WISP's are a very special breed of folks. There are a few common >attributes that one has to recognize about them. >1. Most WISP's are not Technical Folks. (Most of them are Farmers or >from other totally non-technical fields). >2. Most of them became operators not because they wanted to or it made >business sense. but simply because there was not Service available in >that area. >3. They are very hardworking, innovative group, but at the same time >they are also a bit on the 'eccentric' side when comes to technology, >and understanding technology. >4. Most of them have outsourced folks managing their networks. (these >folks are very qualified and familiar with networking) > >So, in contrast, while NANOG community is full of folks who develop / >write RFC's for Global networks, WISP community is mostly Rural folks >who were forced to 'piece a network' together because no-one would serve >them.... > >Don't be alarmed by the discussion on UBNT list or any other WISP >list.....Most WISP's are typically very small network operators (sub 500 >subscribers, there are some large ones too but their opinions and >technical understanding is very different.) and tend to setup their >network the 'Easy way'.... You will find them to be about the very last >folks to adapt IPv6...(to make my case and point .... A lot of them are >still running Bridge Networks, and just starting to convert to Routed >Networks). They are not known for Leading Edge network operators with >the exception of when it comes to 'Wireless Radios'. > >A lot of them are very comfortable with using Private IP's and NAT to >provide service to their customers. > >Worry about them .... No need. >Need for Education on IPv6 ... Absolutely Yes.... We all can use as much >as we can get. >And, we all are also hampered by IPv6 support / or lack of it, from the >equipment mfg. that we are using in our networks. > >Hope this makes sense. > >Faisal Imtiaz >Snappy Internet & Telecom > >On 9/16/2012 1:43 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >> On 9/16/12 9:55 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >>> I came across these threads today; the blind ignorance towards IPv6 >>>from >>> some of the posters is kind of shocking. It's also pretty disappointing >>> if these are the people providing internet access to end users. We >>>focus >>> our worries on the big guys like AT&T going IPv6 (which I'm sure but >>> they're slow), but these small operators are a much bigger problem. >>> >>> http://forum.ubnt.com/showthread.php?p=355722 >>> >>> http://forum.ubnt.com/showthread.php?t=53779 >>> >> It was brought to my attention that the second link isn't open to the >> public, sorry about that, I forgot to check them in a separate browser. >> The attitudes are the same though. >> >> ~Seth >> >> > > >