On Sep 17, 2012, at 07:55 , Adrian Bool <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 17 Sep 2012, at 15:02, Nick Hilliard <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 17/09/2012 14:37, Adrian Bool wrote:
>>> It seems a tad unfair that the bottom 80 bits are squandered away with a
>>> utilisation rate of something closely approximating  zero
>> 
>> You are thinking in ipv4 mode. In ipv6 mode, the consideration is not how
> 
>> many hosts you have, but how many subnets you are dealing with.  Instead of
>> thinking of 128 bits of addressing space, we talk about 64 bits of subnet
>> space.  So your statement comes down to: "it seems a tad unfair that the
>> bottom 16 bits are squandered away".  This is a more difficult argument to
>> make.
> 
> I don't really agree with the "IPv6 think" concept - but let's put that aside 
> for now...
> 
> The default allocation size from an RIR* to an LIR is a /32.  For an LIR 
> providing /48 site allocations to their customers, they therefore have 
> 16-bits of address space available to them to address their customers.
> 
> So, even in "IPv6 think", homes that typically have one subnet have an equal 
> number of bits to address their single subnet as an LIR has to address all of 
> their customers.
> 
> It seems illogical to me that we've got an 128-bit address space, featuring 
> numbers far larger than any human can comprehend, yet the default allocation 
> to an LIR allows them to address such a feeble number as 65,536 customers - a 
> number far smaller than the number of customers for medium to large ISPs.
> 
> The default LIR allocation should be a several orders of magnitude greater 
> than the typical customer base  - not a smaller default allocation.
> 

Don't think of it as the default allocation, think of it as the minimum 
allocation.

You can very easily get a much larger allocation if you have more than 30,000 
customers.

Owen


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