If all you need is initial mitigation against fairly basic flood type attack 
vectors, then the Radware and a host of other similar appliances, should do the 
job. I know Radware is in the stack of a few very successful DDoS mitigation 
services. But if you intend to offer a premium DDoS mitigation service, then 
you should invest in the likes of Arbor. The Arbor Fingerprint Sharing Alliance 
is a big time value-add and their support organization (including ArborSERT) is 
top-notch. In addition to good marketing, there are sound technical reasons why 
Arbor is found in the mitigation stacks of most top-tier service providers.

Whatever on-premise mitigation solution you implement, I also strongly 
recommend forming a commercial alliance with a dedicated mitigation service 
provider (e.g. Prolexic, Verisign, DOSarrest) so that you have a contingency 
plan for when the attacks get too big/sophisticated to effectively mitigate 
without affecting your infrastructure and your ability to meet SLAs to other 
customers. When sh*t hits the fan, it is good to be able to get the targeted 
/24 off your transit/peering links. Lastly, successful mitigation requires that 
you have excellent relationship along with well-rehearsed playbook (e.g. for 
ACL and null-routing) in place with all your transit/peering links.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Usle [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 1:12 PM
To: James Braunegg
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: DDOS hardware appliances for network security - Arbor Pravail APS 
vs nsFocus ADS 6020 - Reviews - Feedback

Checkout Radware Defense Pro.   It offers some very innovative approaches to 
network and application attack mitigation.  I particularly like the NBA and 
real time signatures. 



James Braunegg <[email protected]> wrote:

>Dear Nanog
>
>
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>I would like to start a discussion on network security DDOS hardware 
>appliances, mainly compairing the Arbor Pravail APS device vs the nsFocus 
>ADS6020 device as I am looking at investing in such a product and would love 
>to hear some industry feedback, reviews, information and from vendors etc.
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>To provide some background information we are looking at a device for inline 
>filtering to clean / filter out unwanted traffc inbound towards our network 
>automaticaly.
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>That being said I'm also happy to hear from other suppliers of appliances (not 
>sure who else there is) or recomendations.
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>For those who don't know much about either device the Arbor Pravail fact sheet 
>can be found here
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>http://www.arbornetworks.com/component/docman/doc_download/498-pravail-aps-data-sheet-english?Itemid=442
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>Like wise the fact sheet for the nsFocus ADS product can be found here
>
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>http://www.nsfocus.com/en/uploadfile/Product/ADS/Datasheet/NSFOCUS%20ADS%20Data%20Sheet.pdf
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>Until recently I was only aware of the Arbor device, although after doing some 
>research I quicky came up with another options, I'm sure many other people 
>have asked / looked into the same questions before so let the debate begin...
>
>
>
>Kindest Regards
>
>James Braunegg
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