On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Tom Taylor <tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm seriously not clear why Y.2770 is characterized as "negotiated behind > closed doors". Any drafts were available to all participants in the ITU-T, > on exactly the same terms as drafts of other Recommendations. As an example, > the draft coming out of the October, 2011 meeting can be seen at > http://www.itu.int/md/T09-SG13-111010-TD-WP4-0201/en. (I have access > delegated by a vendor to whom I have been consulting, by virtue of their > membership in the ITU-T.) >
I suspect people mean that trying to download anything off that broken itu website gets you a page with: "If you have a TIES account, please login:" not the document you wish to download... as compared to the other (one other) 'internet standards body' website full of 'draft/proposed/finalized' standards and discussions there-of: <http://tools.ietf.org/wg/behave/> which links to the: o open discussion mailing list(s) o open meeting minutes o current drafts and finalized standards o charter and etc... open not 'open*' as the itu site is... > I should mention that the "Next Generation Network" within the context of > which this draft was developed is more likely to be implemented by old-line > operators than by pure internet operations. hurray? > Tom Taylor > > > On 05/12/2012 4:34 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: >> >> >> >> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/12/05/0115214/itu-approves-deep-packet-inspection >> >> ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection >> >> Posted by Soulskill on Tuesday December 04, @08:19PM >> >> from the inspect-my-encryption-all-you'd-like dept. >> >> dsinc sends this quote from Techdirt about the International >> Telecommunications Union's ongoing conference in Dubai that will have an >> effect on the internet everywhere: "One of the concerns is that decisions >> taken there may make the Internet less a medium that can be used to >> enhance >> personal freedom than a tool for state surveillance and oppression. The >> new >> Y.2770 standard is entitled 'Requirements for deep packet inspection in >> Next >> Generation Networks', and seeks to define an international standard for >> deep >> packet inspection (DPI). As the Center for Democracy & Technology points >> out, >> it is thoroughgoing in its desire to specify technologies that can be used >> to >> spy on people. One of the big issues surrounding WCIT and the ITU has been >> the lack of transparency — or even understanding what real transparency >> might >> be. So it will comes as no surprise that the new DPI standard was >> negotiated >> behind closed doors, with no drafts being made available." >> >> >> >