On Dec 9, 2012, at 2:58 AM, Randy Bush <ra...@psg.com> wrote:

>> reliable tunnel
> 
> bzzzt!  oxymoron alert!!!
> 
Intellectually I want to agree with you, but after some reflection...

We use lots of tunnels at my org - the IPsec variety. A quick non-scientific 
query of our monitoring logs reveals that our tunnels are exactly as reliable 
as the circuits and routers which underneath them.

MTU issues aren't really a problem for us either, but then again we do control 
all the devices at at least one end if the tunnel.

I defer to your experience and reputation Randy, and im syre you're right. But 
where are all these horrifically unreliable tunnels? 

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