-----Original Message-----
From: Ricky Beam [mailto:jfb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:45 PM
To: NANOG list; Mike
Subject: Re: Service provider T1/PPP question

On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 00:07:45 -0400, Mike <mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com>
wrote:
>> I am wanting to offer a broadband over T1 service and have the ...

>s/broadband/internet/

>A T1 is miles away from "broadband" these days.

>Having done this with Cisco gear (*years* ago), you want to avoid MLPPP 
>whenever possible.  We did CEF per-packet when the CPE end was also Cisco; it 
>worked perfectly with none of the restrictions or bugs.

>--Ricky

I think this post seems like a flashback.  I would not consider a T-1 to really 
be broadband anymore and it is pretty much limited to a business environment 
the way tariffs work.  As far as MLPPP, it seems to be pretty stable now where 
you need multiple bonded T-1s.  We have a few sites running MLPPP with Sprint 
on Juniper and Cisco gear and have not had an issue with it.  It is definitely 
not my preference for business connectivity anymore.  We tend to look for 
Ethernet service which is way cheaper per mb than T-1 and requires less 
expensive terminal equipment in most cases.  T-1s are the business solution 
where you need dedicated MPLS connectivity and fiber transport is not 
available.  DSL or Internet VPN are OK but somewhat less stable for business 
class private network solutions.  If it is internet connectivity they want you 
will get beaten up by the cable companies that can outrun and outprice you 
across the board.  You will also have a heck of a time competing with incumbent 
and competitive telecoms in T-1s that have central offices or collocations in 
central offices.  The economics just don't work if you don't have direct access 
to the cable plant.  Maybe up until the telecom act but not now.  How do you 
intend to get those T-1s back to you or are you a CLEC?

Steven Naslund


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