Many of the Washington state PUDs very early in the day took on the charge of 
delivering "broadband" to places that the telco's did  not see ROI for.  It did 
and still does make sense to deliver fiber along with power to the home but 
that is the kind of long term thinking that can be costly up front for future 
improved quality of life.  Nice to see some acknowledgement on the list of that 
vision.

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 Nick Guy   | Network Architecture | NoaNet | [email protected]|  
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bergman [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 8:34 AM
To: Warren Bailey; Constantine A. Murenin; Jeff Kell
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: One of our own in the Guardian.

I'm happy to say we did not use federal or state money to build the fiber or 
the network in Grant County.  There is some of that floating around us though. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Bailey [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:37 PM
To: Constantine A. Murenin; Jeff Kell
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

I would imagine this cheap rural fiber showed up after the RUS stimulus? A 
former employer (GCI, in Anchorage Alaska) received quite a bit of money in the 
form of a grant/loan for a rural fiber network (I think they may have received 
the largest of all grants). Would be interesting to know how much of this was 
as a result of dot gov funding.


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Constantine A. Murenin" <[email protected]>
Date: 07/14/2013 10:59 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Jeff Kell <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: One of our own in the Guardian.


On 14 July 2013 10:11, Jeff Kell <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 7/13/2013 10:15 PM, Jima wrote:
>> On 2013-07-13 14:44, Bill Woodcock wrote:
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/09/xmission-isp-customers-p
>>> rivacy-nsa
>>>
>>
>>  I can happily state that XMission is my home ISP, with UTOPIA 
>> (city-involved fiber optic provider) as the local loop.  (Really, who 
>> has 100/100 at home?)
>
> A whole lot of folks in Chattanooga...
> https://epbfi.com/enroll/packages/#/fi-speed-internet-100
>
> 100Mb symmetric is $69/mo, 250Mb is $139, 1Gbit is $299
>
> Largely Alcatel/Lucent GPON.  Business rates considerably higher :) 
> They are one of our providers and we aren't "metered".  I don't know 
> how they're handling domestic rates / quotas.

There are a number of 100/100 under $100/mo providers in the US, but most of 
them are concentrated in various rural areas.

I've tried maintaining an up-to-date list of providers with reasonable offers 
at http://bmap.su/, but lately haven't had the time to keep on updating it.

C.





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