On Nov 16, 2013, at 19:30 , Michael Collins <mcoll...@aleae.com> wrote:

> It's Yet Another False Positive in anomaly detection and traffic analysis 
> software that I fiddle with.  In the case of CDNs, I mostly want to throw 
> them out the window -- whenever I see one, I know that the reverse lookup 
> information is going to be useless and it's time to toss that address out of 
> the bucket and look at the next weird one on the list. 

Not sure why in-addr on CDN would be any different than .. well, anything.

Perhaps I do not understand your use case well enough?

-- 
TTFN,
patrick


> On Nov 16, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patr...@ianai.net> wrote:
> 
>> First, the location of CDN nodes is not relevant to passive DNS monitoring. 
>> If Andrew would like a list of domains with CDN hostnames in them, that 
>> might be findable.
>> 
>> Second, a list of CDN nodes is likely impossible to gather & maintain 
>> without the help of the CDNs themselves. There are literally thousands of 
>> them, most do not serve the entire Internet, and they change frequently. And 
>> before you ask, I know at least Akamai will _not_ give you their list, so 
>> don't even try to ask them.
>> 
>> Sorry this makes your life more difficult. Perhaps if you explained why you 
>> were doing address lookups, the collective body could help you come up with 
>> a better solution?
>> 
>> -- 
>> TTFN,
>> patrick
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:06 , Michael Collins, Aleae <mcoll...@aleae.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'll second that; CDNs are a constant pain for me when I'm doing address
>>> lookups.  A list of them would make life a lot easier for a bunch of
>>> different investigative processes. 
>>> 
>>> If there isn't one right now, I think I could get off my tuchas and
>>> start maintaining one if anyone's interested in pitching in.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/14/13 5:19 PM, Andrew Fried wrote:
>>>> Actually, a list of CDNs would be very handy.  I harvest botnets and
>>>> fast flux hosts out of passive dns, and some of the heuristics used to
>>>> identify them are similar to what CDNs look like.
>>>> 
>>>> Having a decent list of CDN effective top level domains alone would be
>>>> useful for redacting those hosts.
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew Fried
>>>> andrew.fr...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/14/13, 5:11 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>>>>> List of CDNs would be difficult, but not impossible. Although they do 
>>>>> different things, so a simple list is unlikely to be as useful as it 
>>>>> looks. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> A lost of CDN "DC nodes" is not possible. Why do you care about such a 
>>>>> thing anyway?
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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