On 04.12.2013 4:14, Mark Andrews wrote: > In message <529d9492.8020...@inblock.ru>, Nikolay Shopik writes: >> On 03/12/13 02:54, Owen DeLong wrote: >>> I have talked to my bean counters. We give out /48s to anyone who wants >>> them and we don't charge for IPv6 add >> ress space. >> >> There is some ISP who afraid their users will be reselling their >> connectivity to other users around. While I didin't see that in years >> (probably last time in 2005) but still this exist in poor regions. > > And if they didn't resell it they probably wouldn't have a customer > in the first place. Unless you offer "unlimited" plans the ISP > isn't losing anything here. The bandwidth being used is being paid > for. If it isn't the ISP needs to adjust the price points to cover > their costs rather than hoping that people won't use all of the > bandwidth they have purchased.
If we talk about end-user not business user, ISP assume 95th% load will be minimal so therefore it allow them to sell 100mbit for like 20-30$, while real price of it much higher. If its big ISP they usually don't care, as there always be downloaders who saturate their link to 90% most time, but compare to most of other users in their net, this will be not noticeable. If its just smallish ISP things get harder for it. > > This is like the whole tethered debate. Why should the ISP care > about which device the packets are source from. The customer is > buying so many gigabytes of traffic a month. They should be able > to use them anyway they see fit without actually breaking the laws > of the land. If you actually pay per bit, true or have some kind "fair usage" unlimited plan. > > I let my daughter's friends use the net at home here. If they burn > through my monthly allotment well then I need to pony up more money > or take a reduced service level until the month ends. It's none > of my ISP's concern how the bandwidth I have purchased from them > is being used. If you talk about wired connection, this thing almost non-existing here. Only apply to wireless 3G/4G ISPs with limited bits and then reduced service. > > Note there really isn't unlimited. There is pipe width * 29-30 > days of traffic. If you have purchased a "unlimited" service then > you should be able to pull that amount of traffic without the ISP > complaining. > >> Other than that, completely agree on /56y default and /48 on request, >> but most ISPs here are give-out just single /64. > > Which is just plain stupid. > > Some even come up with idea two separate /64 make things easier :-D, instead just put at least round /60