Well, with luck probably it will just bounce off their corporate hull and drift into the Kuiper belt.
Say hi to Sugar ;) -mel > On Mar 1, 2015, at 4:01 PM, "Dave Taht" <dave.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> wrote: >> Dave, >> >> I appreciate all your work on buffer bloat. It looks like you have done >> quite a lot of selfless contribution. However, I don't think you're >> effectively communicating with the people who can change things. >> >> After I read what you said, here is what I would have heard as a service >> provider: >> >> "I am the smartest person in the room. > > I am pretty close to being the smartest person in the room. That said, > people like van jacobson, eric dumazet, tom herbert, jim gettys, eric > raymond, vint cerf, dave reed, fred baker, and many, many others, > smarter than me, have also been banging this drum, politely, and > rationally, to not much effect, for 4+ years now. > > google for any of those names and the word "bufferbloat". > >> You better listen to me, because if you don't there will be trouble. But you >> probably won't because you're too stupid. Your customers suffer because you >> are idiots. Listen to me! This issue is too important for me to be polite, >> or even coherent. If you can't figure out what I'm saying, do some research >> and figure it out! Plus, apologize to me! I demand it!" > > Oh, banning my ip for *3 links to sane benchmarks and fixes*, > realllllly pushed me over the edge. > >> Bees, honey, vinegar, etc. > > I have been polite, constructive, and helpful, for four+ years. I have > worked both in the background and foreground with many companies, to > start hopefully, getting bufferbloat fixed across the entire edge of > the internet. It hasn't worked fast enough for my liking, and the last > batch of new products that claimed to fix it, didn't, and the market > is now rife with genuine lies as to whether they did or not. > > So, this morning, I tried this. Sorry for the noise on these lists. > Honestly! I totally agree with your assessment of my tone, btw! but I > would rather like the cable industry in particular, to come clean, > with schedules for deployable fixes. > > I am off to go fix wifi next, and I do hope that 2+ billion people in > the world - if not the isps, maybe - would like wifi to get better > also, and indeed, I spent the weekend constructively starting to > implement some of the fixes I outlined at the last 802.11 meeting I > attended. That part, on fixing wifi bufferbloat - a much harder > problem than edge bufferbloat - , is a lot of fun! For some info on > what we plan to do there, see: > > http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/ieee802.11-sept-17-2014/11-14-1265-00-0wng-More-on-Bufferbloat.pdf > > So I took a break from that, reared back, and got some stuff off my chest. > > -- > Dave Täht > Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb