If you fix that, I think you deserve an award of some kind. You sir, will have 
won the Internet. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Barry Shein" <b...@world.std.com> 
To: "Colin Johnston" <col...@gt86car.org.uk> 
Cc: goe...@anime.net, nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 3:34:26 PM 
Subject: Re: BGP offloading (fixing legacy router BGP scalability issues) 


Sounds there's a need for a higher level of dialogue. Hey, if it can 
be done with Iran... 

These are identifiable companies not sub-rosa criminal gangs (as we 
get with spam) so there ought to be some hope. 

On April 2, 2015 at 21:10 col...@gt86car.org.uk (Colin Johnston) wrote: 
> yes have tried chinese language communication as well. 
> none of it works, they dont believe bad traffic is a big issue where it has 
> been proved 100% is bad 
> we do belive this is due to bad abuse practice not informing customers and 
> also deliberately sending bad traffic to test exploits on a large scale. 
> 
> ssl bad cert signing in china is just a example of this culture 
> 
> shutting the door if it is shown unfriendly traffic makes sense to me 
> 
> colin 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> > On 2 Apr 2015, at 20:50, Barry Shein <b...@world.std.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > The essence of this discussion is IMHO a little...um...trite. 
> > 
> > Be that as it may how many of you have attempted to contact these 
> > providers in Chinese? 
> > 
> > Or do you all have good reason to believe that is never the problem? 
> > 
> > 
> >> On April 2, 2015 at 11:05 goe...@anime.net (goe...@anime.net) wrote: 
> >>> On Thu, 2 Apr 2015, Mark Tinka wrote: 
> >>> Most of the spam I get comes from North America. Go figure. I'm not 
> >>> about to cut access to that continent off. 
> >> 
> >> Big difference is that north america is usually responsive to abuse 
> >> notifications and sometimes has LEO who will listen. 
> >> 
> >> china is neither. 
> >> 
> >> -Dan 
> > 
> > -- 
> > -Barry Shein 
> > 
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