Mike,

I think it's fine to cut it up smaller than /24, and might actually help in 
keeping people from routing the IX prefix globally.

-Laszlo


On Apr 5, 2015, at 12:35 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Okay, so I decided to look at what current IXes are doing. 
> 
> It looks like AMS-IX, Equinix and Coresite as well as some of the smaller 
> IXes are all using /64s for their IX fabrics. Seems to be a slam dunk then as 
> how to handle the IPv6. We've got a /48, so a /64 per IX. For all of those 
> advocating otherwise, do you have much experience with IXes? Multiple people 
> talked about routing. There is no routing within an IX. I may grow, but an IX 
> in a tier-2 American city will never scale larger than AMS-IX. If it's good 
> enough for them, it's good enough for me. 
> 
> Back to v4, I went through a few pages of PeeringDB and most everyone used a 
> /24 or larger. INEX appears to use a /25 for each of their segments. IX 
> Australia uses mainly /24s, but two locations split a /24 into /25s. A couple 
> of the smaller single location US IXes used /25s and /26s. It seems there's 
> precedent for people using smaller than /24s, but it's not overly common. 
> Cash and address space preservation. What does the community think about IXes 
> on smaller than /24s? 
> 
> 
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Brendan Halley" <bren...@halley.net.au> 
> To: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> 
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
> Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 6:10:34 PM 
> Subject: Re: Small IX IP Blocks 
> 
> 
> IPv4 and IPv6 subnets are different. While a single IPv4 is taken to be a 
> single device, an IPv6 /64 is designed to be treated as an end user subnet. 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3177 section 3. 
> On 05/04/2015 9:05 am, "Mike Hammett" < na...@ics-il.net > wrote: 
> 
> 
> That makes sense. I do recall now reading about having that 8 bit separation 
> between tiers of networks. However, in an IX everyone is supposed to be able 
> to talk to everyone else. Traditionally (AFAIK), it's all been on the same 
> subnet. At least the ones I've been involved with have been single subnets, 
> but that's v4 too. 
> 
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "Valdis Kletnieks" < valdis.kletni...@vt.edu > 
> To: "Mike Hammett" < na...@ics-il.net > 
> Cc: "NANOG" < nanog@nanog.org > 
> Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 5:49:37 PM 
> Subject: Re: Small IX IP Blocks 
> 
> On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 16:06:02 -0500, Mike Hammett said: 
> 
>> I am starting up a small IX. The thought process was a /24 for every IX 
>> location (there will be multiple of them geographically disparate), even 
>> though 
>> we nqever expected anywhere near that many on a given fabric. Then okay, how 
>> do 
> < we d o v6? We got a /48, so the thought was a /64 for each. 
> 
> You probably want a /56 for each so you can hand a /64 to each customner. 
> 
> That way, customer isolation becomes easy because it's a routing problem. 
> If customers share a subnet, it gets a little harder.... 
> 
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