If you have so much difference in price of IX connectivity (in general,
including cabling, DWDM to one of major IX, colo, etc) - this only mean
you should have a long talk with your current IP transit sales. Or just
change it to another one.

On 04/15/15 21:45, Mike Hammett wrote:
> (Reply to thread, not necessarily myself.) 
> 
> If you can pull a third of your traffic off at the cost of a cross connect 
> and another third at the cost of an IX port, now you can spend a buck or two 
> a meg on what's left. Yes, I understand the cost of a cross connect or IX 
> port is the $/megabit you're actually using and not $/megabit of capacity. 
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> 
> To: "Max Tulyev" <max...@netassist.ua> 
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:33:35 PM 
> Subject: Re: Peering and Network Cost 
> 
> Very true. I left it as I did given that I expect a similar profile from 
> others in North America... on NANOG. 
> 
> Basically, wherever your region's streaming video or application updates come 
> from. ;-) 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "Max Tulyev" <max...@netassist.ua> 
> To: nanog@nanog.org 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:27:45 PM 
> Subject: Re: Peering and Network Cost 
> 
> Not actually Facebook net, but Akamai CDN. Not a Google (peer), but GCC 
> node ;) 
> 
> It is varying from location to location. For example here in Ukraine we 
> (still) have 1st place for traffic amount from Vkontakte (mostly music 
> streams), second from EX.ua (movie store), but almost none NetFlix, Hulu 
> or Amazon. And you can't get both of them in a good quality neither at 
> IXes, nor at Tier1. 
> 
> I think in another locations, for example in India, traffic profile will 
> be different from both of us, and have some local specific as well. 
> 
> On 04/15/15 20:58, Mike Hammett wrote: 
>> It also depends on traffic makeup. Huge amounts of eyeball traffic go to 
>> (well, come from) NetFlix (a third) and Google, FaceBook, Hulu, Amazon, etc. 
>> (another third). It's comparable price to peer off those few huge sources of 
>> traffic and buy better transit than you would have than to just buy cheap 
>> transit. 
>>
>> A lot of people tend to forget there are thousands of independent ISPs out 
>> there, usually in areas where there aren't a breadth of providers in the 
>> first place. Most could get buy with a single GigE (or even less). 
>>
>>
>>
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>> ----- 
>> Mike Hammett 
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> http://www.ics-il.com 
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>
>> From: "Max Tulyev" <max...@netassist.ua> 
>> To: nanog@nanog.org 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:50:41 PM 
>> Subject: Re: Peering and Network Cost 
>>
>> Hi Roderick, 
>>
>> transit cost is lowering close to peering cost, so it is doubghtful 
>> economy on small channels. If you don't live in 
>> Amsterdam/Frankfurt/London - add the DWDM cost from you to one of major 
>> IX. That's the magic. 
>>
>> In large scale peering is still efficient. It is efficient on local 
>> traffic which is often huge. 
>>
>> On 04/15/15 17:28, Rod Beck wrote: 
>>> Hi, 
>>>
>>>
>>> As you all know, transit costs in the wholesale market today a few percent 
>>> of what it did in 2000. I assume that most of that decline is due to a 
>>> modified version of Moore's Law (I don't believe optics costs decline 50% 
>>> every 18 months) and the advent of maverick players like Cogent that broker 
>>> cozy oligopoly pricing. 
>>>
>>>
>>> But I also wondering whether the advent of widespread peering 
>>> (promiscuous?) among the Tier 2 players (buy transit and peer) has played a 
>>> role. In 2000 peering was still an exclusive club and in contrast today 
>>> Tier 2 players often have hundreds of peers. Peering should reduce costs 
>>> and also demand in the wholesale IP market. Supply increases and demand 
>>> falls. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I thank you in advance for any insights. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards, 
>>>
>>>
>>> - R. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Roderick Beck 
>>> Sales Director/Europe and the Americas 
>>> Hibernia Networks 
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