Yeah, Other People's Money. 

I highly doubt they got government money, but large corporations are full of 
OPM from the perspective of the guy doing the work. Let's pitch this big 
science project because it sounds awesome and I can convince these guys to pay 
for it. It's not in any way unique to Comcast. 

Contrasting that to a small company where it very much is the head guy's money 
in every decision, so (generally, though certainly not always) more judicious 
caution is exercised. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Scott Helms" <[email protected]> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> 
Cc: "Jared Mauch" <[email protected]>, "Corey Petrulich" 
<[email protected]>, "Kenneth Falkenstein" 
<[email protected]>, "NANOG mailing list" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:50:27 AM 
Subject: Re: WiFI on utility poles 


OPM, as in Other People's Money? If that's what you meant I don't think that's 
an accurate description since AFAIK Comcast didn't get any CAF money. 






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On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: 


I wish IEEE would natively support smaller channels as that's what's needed 
most of the time. Interference would be so much less. 

If there's opportunity for Comcast to work with the WISP community on channel 
selection to avoid mutual destruction, then great. 

That said, the cable company's efforts scream of OPM. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Jared Mauch" < [email protected] > 
To: "Mike Hammett" < [email protected] > 
Cc: "Jason Livingood" < [email protected] >, "Corey Petrulich" 
< [email protected] >, "Kenneth Falkenstein" < 
[email protected] >, "NANOG mailing list" < [email protected] > 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:52:59 AM 
Subject: Re: WiFI on utility poles 


> On Sep 10, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: 
> 
> 5 GHz noise levels affecting people whose primary means of Internet access is 
> via fixed wireless . 
> 

This is a huge deal for those people like myself that depend on fixed wireless 
for access at home because there is no broadband available despite incentives 
given by cities and states and the federal government. 

The local WISPs are good at coordinating access in these ISM bands amongst 
themselves but when someone appears with a SSID without doing a peek at the 
spectrum (note: not a site survey, but actual spectrum view w/ waterfall, as 
site survey only checks for the channel width that the client radio is 
configured for, not al the 10, 15, 8, 30mhz wide variants). 

It’s just poor practice to show up and break something else because you can’t 
be bothered to notice the interference or noise floor you created. I suspect 
the hardware that Comcast is using doesn’t notice this interference or adjacent 
channel issues. With the FCC aiming to let cell carriers also clog the 5ghz ISM 
band it’s only going to get worse. 

- Jared 




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