You know, without actually looking I’m willing to lay money down that the 
people beating the blocklist drum are the same people who scream the loudest 
about net neutrality when they can’t actually get to the content they want. 

> On Dec 25, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Daniel Corbe <dco...@hammerfiber.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Dec 25, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>> 
>> To the thread, not necessarily Daniel, if blocking countries\continents is a 
>> bad thing (not saying I disagree), how do you deal with the flood of trash? 
>> Just take it on the chin? 
> 
> If you as an end user want to be the cyber-equivalent of a xenophobe because 
> OMG BAD INTERNETS then be my guest.  On the other hand, I’m a network 
> operator so I don’t have the luxury of dictating to my users what they can 
> and cannot reach.  
> 
>> 
>> The degree of splash damage by blocking this way will vary based upon what 
>> kind of network you are. Residential eyeballs? You could probably block most 
>> of a lot of things and people wouldn't notice or care, as long as it wasn't 
>> Google, Facebook, Netflix, etc. 
> 
> As a residential ISP with many first and second generation American 
> immigrants in my service footprint I can assure you this notion is patently 
> false.  People will definitely notice and care if they can’t communicate with 
> their relatives and consume content in their home countries.  
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- 
>> Mike Hammett 
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> http://www.ics-il.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> From: "Daniel Corbe" <dco...@hammerfiber.com> 
>> To: "Nick Hilliard" <n...@foobar.org> 
>> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> 
>> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 8:11:55 AM 
>> Subject: Re: de-peering for security sake 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 25, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Nick Hilliard <n...@foobar.org> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Daniel Corbe wrote: 
>>>> Let’s just cut off the entirety of the third world instead of having 
>>>> a tangible mitigation plan in place. 
>>> 
>>> You mean, cut off Sweden, Ireland, Finland, Switzerland and Israel? 
>>> 
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World 
>>> 
>>> What an enormously silly idea. 
>>> 
>>> Seasons greetings to all, 
>>> 
>>> Nick 
>>> 
>> 
>> It was a stupid idea even before you corrected me. 
>> 
>> 
> 

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