Cell site has one network in and out, that being the providers own network.

This data center has many transit providers blended into their DIA while I 
might only have two at the location.

While cell sites in larger cities might be in better shape than down here in 
the south, I've seen way to many go down around here from storms.

What's makes ATT LTE network different from the ATT transit network that sits 
in the datacenter? While it gives me access to a network outside the datacenter 
it seems to limit me to only one network.






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On Jan 18, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore 
<patr...@ianai.net<mailto:patr...@ianai.net>> wrote:

That is a good price, and a nice service from the provider.

However, why is that more diverse than LTE? If the colo provider uses the same 
transit and/or transit provider(s) you do, it sounds very not-diverse.

--
TTFN,
patrick

On Jan 18, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Luke Guillory 
<lguill...@reservetele.com<mailto:lguill...@reservetele.com>> wrote:

We were quoted sub $200 for 10M DIA from the datacenter which included a copper 
handoff which would be more diverse than the cell option.



Luke





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-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Patrick W. Gilmore
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 9:13 AM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Common Reliable Out Of Band Management Options at Carrier Hotels

+1 for OpenGear + LTE / cell.

Obviously POTS works and is available in any carrier hotel and not insanely 
expensive.

Also, lots (not all) colocation providers will give you very cheap ethernet 
OOB. (E.g. Our colo gives you GigE for the cost of the xconn + 2 Mbps 95/5 
free.) I would ask before looking at getting a 3G/4G modem. Assuming, of 
course, you are comfortable with the colo provider’s network being diverse 
enough from your own.

--
TTFN,
patrick

On Jan 18, 2017, at 8:55 AM, David Hubbard 
<dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com<mailto:dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com>> wrote:

Provided you can get a cell signal, we’ve been very happy with Opengear boxes.  
We’d been using their ACM5508 which is eight serial ports, two Ethernet, cell.  
It runs linux, you can ssh into it, do fancy things like keep the cell side 
down and use text messages to bring it up if you need to get in, does VPN, 
PPTP, monitors environmental things if needed, etc.  They replaced that model 
with the 7004 and 7008 (4 or 8 serial).  They have console servers if you need 
more ports; we have a 32-port daisy chained to a 5508 in a location we had 
serial growth, but their 7200-series is cell plus high density serial in one.

In a data center with particularly bad cell reception, Opengear recommended 
getting a high gain antenna from wpsantennas.com<http://wpsantennas.com>.  I 
contacted them and the recommendation for my specific use case was a Panorama 
WMMG-7-27.  We had it mounted above the overhead infrastructure on top of our 
cage and it dramatically improved the signal to make it a non-issue.

David

On 1/17/17, 4:59 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Darin Herteen" 
<nanog-boun...@nanog.org<mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of 
syn...@live.com<mailto:syn...@live.com>> wrote:

 Greetings list,


 We are exploring standardizing our Out Of Band options across our network and 
various off-net locations and the question was brought up "What about carrier 
hotels? What constraints might present themselves at those locations?"


 Assuming each hotel we are located in can provide either Ethernet or DSL I'm 
guessing that is going to come a cost (cross-connects, rack space etc..) that 
might end up being cost prohibitive.


 So my inquiry is... What does the list find to be a reasonably priced yet 
reliable solution in carrier hotels for OOB? Or is that contradictory :)


 Thoughts on Cellular?


 Any experience/insight would be appreciated.


 Thanks,


 Darin




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