On 5/13/17 5:56 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > This debate has spilled onto NANOG from Facebook now... > > My point is that while the term tier-1 (meaning no transit) isn't wrong, that > the whole system is now irrelevant. Look at the Wikipedia list of "Tier 1" > networks and then look at CAIDA, Dyn, QRator, HE's BGP Report, etc. There's > some overlap between the historical "tier 1s" and the other rankings of > usefulness, but the "tier 1s" are no longer the dominate networks they once > were. What I witnessed in Asia-Pac, Africa and parts of Europe, is that inexperienced engineers as well as sales & marketing people would use the term "Tier 1" to refer to incumbent telecoms providers, especially if they are either a monopoly or had the largest customer base in that country and/or region.
Nowadays, I'm hearing this less and less, but it's not completely gone. Mark.