Though not an industry standard definition, we've defined them at a product 
level where I work.  These have changed somewhat over the years, but pretty 
much fall along the following lines.

IP Transit: A wholesale product that does not include IP Addresses, email 
address, DNS, or any other "value-added" services.  When customer has filed a 
499-a, collection of USF surcharges is waived.  Availability is typically 
limited to a sub-set of the total POP footprint and generally does not include 
access backhaul on our network.

Dedicated Internet Access: A product generally sold to businesses that includes 
IP addresses, recursive DNS, and 5 domain names.  Available across the whole of 
the footprint and pricing includes backhaul on our network, but not off-net 
(3rd party) backhaul.  USF is always assessed.  (email and usenet services are 
defunct with our service, but I'm sure many still offer email).

I can see the second product definition for DIA being a pretty good match for 
your ISP definition, be that consumer broadband or what have you, with minor 
modifications.

FWIW, hope that's helpful.

Dave


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-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois Mezei
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

The FCC is about to reclassify "Broadband Internet Access Service" as an 
information service instead of Telecommunications Service. This prombpted the 
following question which isn't about the FCC action per say.

This is about how does one define Transit provider vs ISP ?

Cogent for instance acts as a transit provider to other networks but also sells 
connectivity to companies.

Peer1 in Canada used to sell "transit" to a then small emerging ISP, but as its 
sole transit provider, provided the BGP management as well as peering at Torix. 
 Is the service to the ISP still called "transit" ?

Or would ISP be defined as the organsation which assigns IPs to end users via 
PPPoE of DHCP ?

One could argue that a network which assigns 4 or less IPs per customer would 
be an ISP. But what about IPv6 where the ISP could give each end user a /64 ?

Just curious to see if there are agreed upon definitions from the network 
operators's point of view.

I note that large companies tend to do everything from transit, to residential 
ISP, business ISP, libraries, airports etc. For Bell Canada, it is almost all 
under AS577. So separating what is telecom and what is information becomes more 
"interesting".









As a point of reference this is what I *think* the FCC defines as an ISP:

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23. Broadband Internet access service also does not include virtual private 
network (VPN) services, content delivery networks (CDNs), hosting or data 
storage services, or Internet backbone services (if those services are separate 
from broadband Internet access service), consistent with past Commission 
precedent.69 The Commission has historically distinguished these services from 
“mass market” services, as they do not provide the capability to transmit data 
to and receive data from all or substantially all Internet endpoints.70 We do 
not disturb that finding here.

24. Finally, we observe that to the extent that coffee shops, bookstores, 
airlines, private end- user networks such as libraries and universities, and 
other businesses acquire broadband Internet access service from a broadband 
provider to enable patrons to access the Internet from their respective 
establishments, provision of such service by the premise operator would not 
itself be considered a broadband Internet access service unless it was offered 
to patrons as a retail mass market service, as we define it here.71 Likewise, 
when a user employs, for example, a wireless router or a Wi-Fi hotspot to 
create a personal Wi-Fi network that is not intentionally offered for the 
benefit of others, he or she is not offering a broadband Internet access 
service, under our definition, because the user is not marketing and selling 
such service to residential customers, small business, and other end-user 
customers such as schools and libraries.
##

The full 210 proposed FCC decision is at:
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-347927A1.pdf

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