> On Nov 30, 2017, at 10:15 , William Herrin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Owen DeLong <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote
> > On Nov 30, 2017, at 08:20 , Josh Luthman <[email protected] 
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >> If TLS  would somehow allow you to redirect...
> >
> > No but it would be nice to have a solution that redirects the user instead
> > of "this page can't load" creating confusion.
> 
> A well-known non-SSL (non-HSTS) URL that users could use for this purpose 
> would
> serve the same purpose without producing the security problems mentioned.
> 
> A well known SSL certificate that if it appears during negotiation means the 
> application should "check for captive portal.”

This would require modification of all clients and I see no advantage to it vs. 
a well known
locally resolvable URL for captive portals that “MUST NOT” indicate HSTS.

Please explain.

Owen

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