> On Dec 27, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Grant Taylor via NANOG <[email protected]> wrote: > > set Devil's advocate mode = on
Polluted IP space concern = ON > On 12/26/2017 04:24 PM, John Levine wrote: >> Is there some reason you believe that Hulu has a legal duty to provide old >> TV shows to your users? > > Doesn't Hulu (et al) have an obligation to provide service to their paying > customers? > > Does this obligation extend to providing service independent of the carrier > that paying customers uses? > > Or if Hulu choose to exclude known problem carriers (i.e. VPN providers) > don't they have an obligation to confirm that their exclusions are accurate? > Further, to correct problems if their data is shown to be inaccurate? I have a suspicion that these folks acquired IP space that was previously marked as part of a VPN provider, or Hulu is detecting it wrongly as VPN provider IP space. If you look at some of the blocks I’ve seen, they have some interesting history/registration that seems to appear that way. I’ve pointed folks at Hulu at this thread and an encouraging them to follow-up. If you acquired IP space from a broker, you should follow up with them about the geolocation issues, and you should know what it was used for in the past. If you are using a CDN to serve content, make sure you can serve over v6 and can also do geolocation over IPv6. Finding the IP space used to geolocate generally isn’t difficult. I had previously found some of these myself. >> There are laws about discriminating against protected classes like racial or >> religious minorities but I am fairly sure that "random subscribers of some >> ISP in Utah" is not such a class." > > It's not a law, but it is a service agreement between Hulu and their > customers. It’s also that Hulu is owned by content owners that can decide to be strict about their content rights. I’m not a fan of geoblocking and vote with my wallet to not give Hulu money. While I understand your customers may, the lack of a fix is also a market signal. - Jared
