On 3/2/18 5:29 PM, Ca By wrote:
On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:13 PM Matthew Petach <mpet...@netflight.com> wrote:

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:13 PM, Dan Hollis <goe...@sasami.anime.net>
OVH does not suprise me in the least.

Maybe this is finally what it will take to get people to de-peer them.

If I de-peer them, I pay my upstream to carry the
attack traffic.

Your isp will do rtbh

Your peers wont

Some public IXs support RTBH ... Equinix, DE-CIX, to name two ... PNIs is a different story.

If I maintain peering with them, the attack traffic is free.

It would seem the economics work the other way around.

It would be more cost effective for me to identify the largest sources
of attacks, and reach out to directly peer with them, to avoid paying
an upstream to carry the traffic, if I'm going to end up throwing it
away anyhow.

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