At 02:02 AM 3/3/2018, Owen DeLong wrote:
> On Mar 2, 2018, at 10:38 PM, Matt Harris <m...@netfire.net> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 12:33 AM, Owen DeLong
<o...@delong.com <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote:
> Sure
You have to maintain the tunnel or they
may reassign/reallocate the address. Hereâs the reality of that, however:
>
> 1. Unless you care about reaching the
customer they reassigned it to from your network, you donât care.
> 2. Using it for ULA in addition to the
tunnel isnât really prohibited by that. Itâs a gray area, Iâll admit.
> 3. Sure, they can cancel the service at
any time, but you get what you pay for. It saves you $100/year
> while it lasts.
>
> Owen
>
> I'm not sure where you're getting the $100
figure from, ARIN's minimum fee for an
allocation is $250/year (for a /40 or smaller
block) on top of membership fees of $500/yr, so
that's $750/yr to get a /48 from the North
American RIR (which is the only one I'm looking
at today given that the context is the nanog
list). Additionally, tunnel providers can and
have shut down permanently at random - SixXS
was among the largest providers, and they shut
down operations entirely last year. So any
folks using space from them had to renumber,
either on to another tunnel provider's space,
or to ULA. Re-numbering has associated costs,
which in the case we're pointing to here,
could've been saved had they deployed on ULA space instead.
>
You donât need an allocation. Get an assignment.
Owen
Petition the RIR's (and IETF?) to set up a HE
like service for 'micro'
end-users? Self-registration and $4.99/year gets
you a pseudo-GUA /48 to keep forever but
currently understood as not accepted by your ISP.
Some day maybe there will be an efficient way to provide global reachability.
Dave B.