Those days are alive and well. And of course, it hasn't improved any.

On 03/07/2018 12:25 PM, chris wrote:
reminds me of the days when you were forced to colo gear in the phone
company's CO to get access to their cable plant and got gouged on power and
the interconnection between the CO and then you had to buy your upstream
connectivity from the ILEC a insane markup  or for ptp to your closest pop
:) not only did you pay a fortune for the privilege but then you had to
wait 60-90 for the ILEC to "build" the circuit

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:18 PM, James Laszko <> wrote:

NRC = non-recurring fee - the setup fee.  They are charging setup fee and
monthly fees to run a piece of ethernet.  The xcon fee monthly is 25% of
the price of the ethernet service we're getting from the telco....


-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:09 AM
Cc: nanog <>
Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing

I'm sure he means what he says. The cost to remove the cross connect when
you're done with it.

Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

----- Original Message -----

From: "Mel Beckman" <>
To: "Romeo Czumbil" <>
Cc: "nanog" <>
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:55:32 AM
Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing

NRC? Do you mean ETC (early termination charge)?

This is a sore point with me in all telco contracts. They want a one- or
two-year term, or even three, and in exchange give you a discount on the
installation and a tiny MRC reduction. But if you cancel early, they demand
full payment for all the remaining months! I realize that the contract is
written this way, but why? It doesn’t seem fair at all, and as a service
provider myself, I know this is actually a huge unearned windfall for the

To make things worse, many providers subtly plant an “auto-renew” clause
in their contracts. You miss canceling but the end of the contract date,
and BOOM, you’re on the hook for another two years!

I’ve been burned by this more than once.


On Mar 7, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Romeo Czumbil <>
Wait till you ask for a disconnect. Then you get hit again for a hefty

-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [] On Behalf Of James Laszko
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:11 AM
To: nanog <>
Subject: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing

One of our colo’s in San Diego was purchased by Zayo recently and I
requested a new copper Ethernet xcon to be placed. After a few days I
received a quote from my new rep quoting a MRC 3x what I’m currently paying
for existing xcon’s as well as a hefty NRC as well. Anyone have any
experience with this kind of thing? Anyone care to share what an average
copper xcon, single floor, meet-me-room to cage, Ethernet from carrier
circuit costs? (This xcon is approx 30 feet..)


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