On 16/May/18 18:59, David Hubbard wrote:

> I’m curious if anyone who’s used 3356 for transit has found shortcomings in 
> how their peering and redundancy is configured, or what a normal expectation 
> to have is.  The Tampa Bay market has been completely down for 3356 IP 
> services twice so far this year, each for what I’d consider an unacceptable 
> period of time (many hours).  I’m learning that the entire market is served 
> by just two fiber routes, through cities hundreds of miles away in either 
> direction.  So, basically two fiber cuts, potentially 1000+ miles apart, 
> takes the entire region down.  The most recent occurrence was a week or so 
> ago when a Miami-area cut and an Orange, Texas cut (1287 driving miles apart) 
> took IP services down for hours.  It did not take point to point circuits to 
> out of market locations down, so that suggests they even have the ability to 
> be more redundant and simply choose not to.
>
> I feel like it’s not unreasonable to expect more redundancy, or a much 
> smaller attack surface given a disgruntled lineman who knows the routes could 
> take an entire region down with a planned cut four states apart.  Maybe other 
> regions are better designed?  Or are my expectations unreasonable?  I carry 
> three peers in that market, so it hasn’t been outage-causing, but I use 3356 
> in other markets too, and have plans for more, but it makes me wonder if I 
> just haven't had the pleasure of similar outages elsewhere yet and I should 
> factor that expectation into the design.  It creates a problem for me in one 
> location where I can only get them and Cogent, since Cogent can't be relied 
> on for IPv6 service, which I need.

Are Century Link your only option?

Mark.

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