On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 1:19 AM Job Snijders <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 01:07:42AM -0700, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > it is about whether it is acceptable that RIRs (and more > > > specifically ARIN in this mailing list's context) notify affected > > > parties of their prefixes that suffer from stale ROAs. > > > > This I still think is a bad plan.. mostly because I don't think it'll > > help :( I think what helps is: "Oh, I cant get to <foo> and <bar> and > > <most of the internet>" .... I think folk that CARE will do the right > > thing, folk that 'think they care' won't and will soon get > > disconnected from the tubez. > > > > I apologize a tad if my view that: "breaking people will force them to > > fix themselves" is .... rough :( > > What about an one-off outreach effort? > > first I'm certainly happy about any progress on the 'RPKI DONE RIGHT' direction, and specifically Job you as a person have made some awesome progress here getting IXP/ISP folk to move to OV and RPKI deployments, and adding RPKI/ROA data into the NTT IRR. but.. I'm skeptical of distinct efforts like this. I think something like (I think these folk still offer this service: "bgp monitoring") BgpMon's monitoring service is what we should aim for: "A service that RPKI users have signed up for" Else: "ends up in spam folder" :( > We need to somehow kickstart the feedback loop, especially if we expect > effects to become forceful. I'm hoping that if the invalid count is low > enough it'll become more attractive for more people flip the switch and > deploy OV. > > Sure.... but: "can not access a majority of the internet?" seems like a good signal to the affected folks. > Kind regards, > > Job >
