To be fair, the idea that your security costs shouldn't outweigh
potential harm really shouldn't be controversial.  You don't spend a
billion dollars to protect a million dollars worth of product.

That's hardly trolling.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:54 AM Naslund, Steve <snasl...@medline.com> wrote:
>
> Mr Herrin, you are asking us to believe one or all of the following :
>
> 1.  You believe that it is good security policy to NOT have a default DENY 
> ALL policy in place on firewalls for DoD and Intelligence systems handling 
> sensitive data.
>
> 2.  You managed to convince DoD personnel of that fact and actually got them 
> to approve an Authorization to Operate such a system based on cost savings.
>
> 3.  You are just trolling to start a discussion.
>
> The reason I asked what system it is would be to question the authorities at 
> DoD on who and why this was approved.  If you don't want to disclose that 
> then you are either trolling or don't want anyone to look into it.  It won't 
> be hard to determine if you actually had any government contracts since that 
> is public data.  There are very few systems whose EXISTENCE is actually 
> classified, but you were the one that cited it as an example supporting your 
> policy.  If you cannot name the system then it doesn't support your argument 
> very well does it.  Completely unverifiable.
>
> In any case I believe the smart people here on NANOG can accept or reject 
> your security advice based on the factors above.  I'm done talking about this 
> one.
>
> Steven Naslund
>
>
> >> Want to tell us what system this is?
>
> >Yes, I want to give you explicit information about a government system
> >in this public forum and you should encourage me to do so. I thought
> >you said you had some skill in the security field?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Bill Herrin
>


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