Remember when AS 1 was Genuity?  First BGP session I ever set-up was with AS 1.

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Subject: Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

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Speaking of AS1 - I've been wondering, what's it being used for? It looks like 
Level3 owns it, and it's announcing a handful of prefixes and peering with a 
bunch of random ASes from many different countries.

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Steve Meuse 
<sme...@mara.org<mailto:sme...@mara.org>> wrote:

John Orthoefer and I (and dozens of other BBN folks on this list) both worked 
for BBNPlanet at the time that 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 were assigned. John was one 
of the folks who built and ran that system.

So when he said "I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4" and my comment of "I think 
the dial modem folks beat us to..." was referring to the fact that when 4/8 was 
first being deployed on AS1 we started assigning blocks to various groups and 
they realized that 
4.4.4.0/XX<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F4.4.4.0%2FXX&data=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541&sdata=jfL%2FllncZlcRgdY1CdDjC5ueGio02dDgP4tlslqPzLU%3D&reserved=0>
 had already been delegated to another internal group (I think it was the dial 
group).



On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:45 PM Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote:
4.0.0.0/8<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F4.0.0.0%2F8&data=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541&sdata=ggblju816KE%2F8TWMXEKUYmpACyy1vH54uRD0dBCCOtk%3D&reserved=0>
 has been GTE/Level3 forever.

4.2.2.1 - 6 have been L3 DNS as far back as I can remember.

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:32 PM Todd Underwood 
<toddun...@gmail.com<mailto:toddun...@gmail.com>> wrote:
google used 4.4.4.4 for DNS in the past (2010, IIRC).

t

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:21 PM Steve Meuse 
<sme...@mara.org<mailto:sme...@mara.org>> wrote:

I think it was the dial modem team that beat us to 
4.4.4.0/24<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F4.4.4.0%2F24&data=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541&sdata=omZw5JrEbg7yJeNd%2BhwNMVDz6mMAX4C0%2FuzJ5M2VObk%3D&reserved=0>?

-Steve

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM John Orthoefer 
<j...@direwolf.com<mailto:j...@direwolf.com>> wrote:
I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we would have 
used 4.4.4.[123].

Johno

On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani 
<merculi...@gmail.com<mailto:merculi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3 DNS is 
incoming.

-Matt

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ycombinator.com%2Fitem%3Fid%3D18407173&data=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541&sdata=dMAKpJXW3ns4K5X6KZAROOhTlPTmHKYvweIsjs7Ot90%3D&reserved=0>

Quoting from the post:

"

        Apparently bought in two chunks: 
3.0.0.0/9<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F3.0.0.0%2F9&data=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541&sdata=Ge2tXIZCF3fJB9fpwBjG58CUFf%2FPYtAKeosqIIF3JKQ%3D&reserved=0>
 and 
3.128.0.0/9<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F3.128.0.0%2F9&data=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541&sdata=ncpEmnLx%2BWDOIkwMB%2FdR%2FsKmGUJYLLJTvVJL4uUbk%2BI%3D&reserved=0>.

Previous owner was GE.

Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being assigned in 
that range.

https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwhois.arin.net%2Frest%2Fnet%2FNET-3-0-0-0-1.html&data=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600267787&sdata=PPPGSPw3awgQHufOUEZ837KloMCbBKHbm72WXTIwfuI%3D&reserved=0>

https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwhois.arin.net%2Frest%2Fnet%2FNET-3-128-0-0-1.html&data=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600267787&sdata=hadTxFotL%2BctXNNDmthB5EGlapJZHfv1m4js3uwYHN4%3D&reserved=0>


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