As an IX operator, that doesn't always get you anywhere. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "DurgaPrasad - DatasoftComnet" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:12:48 AM 
Subject: Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 130, Issue 23 

Hi, 
It's better to copy and take help of the IXP team where you are physically 
connected. 

Rgds/DP 
9849111010 

Sent from my iPhone. Pls excuse brevity and typos if any. 

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> Message: 1 
> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 10:38:49 -0600 (CST) 
> From: Mike Hammett <[email protected]> 
> To: Darin Steffl <[email protected]> 
> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <[email protected]> 
> Subject: Re: Amazon Peering 
> Message-ID: 
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> I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No 
> response yet. 
> 
> It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering 
> departments. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
> 
> Midwest-IX 
> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> 
> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM 
> Subject: Amazon Peering 
> 
> 
> Hey all, 
> 
> 
> Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with 
> Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this 
> Sept and Nov with no response. 
> 
> 
> I sent to [email protected] and received one automated response back so I 
> know they received my email but nothing since. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Darin Steffl 
> Minnesota WiFi 
> www.mnwifi.com 
> 507-634-WiFi 
> Like us on Facebook 
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> Message: 2 
> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 10:59:21 -0600 
> From: Darin Steffl <[email protected]> 
> To: Mike Hammett <[email protected]> 
> Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <[email protected]> 
> Subject: Re: Amazon Peering 
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> It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering 
> requests for a year. 
> 
> They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all 
> the other contacts listed in peeringdb. 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected] wrote: 
>> 
>> I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No 
>> response yet. 
>> 
>> It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering 
>> departments. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- 
>> Mike Hammett 
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> http://www.ics-il.com 
>> 
>> Midwest-IX 
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
>> 
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>> *From: *"Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> 
>> *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <[email protected]> 
>> *Sent: *Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM 
>> *Subject: *Amazon Peering 
>> 
>> Hey all, 
>> 
>> Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established 
>> with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times 
>> this Sept and Nov with no response. 
>> 
>> I sent to [email protected] and received one automated response back so 
>> I know they received my email but nothing since. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Darin Steffl 
>> Minnesota WiFi 
>> www.mnwifi.com 
>> 507-634-WiFi 
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook 
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> 
>> 
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> Message: 3 
> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 11:29:57 -0600 
> From: JASON BOTHE <[email protected]> 
> To: Darin Steffl <[email protected]> 
> Cc: Mike Hammett <[email protected]>, North American Network Operators' 
> Group <[email protected]> 
> Subject: Re: Amazon Peering 
> Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
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> 
> This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request 
> submitted on Aug7.. 
> 
> “Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we 
> revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked 
> by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.” 
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> 
>> It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering 
>> requests for a year. 
>> 
>> They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all 
>> the other contacts listed in peeringdb. 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected] wrote: 
>>> I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No 
>>> response yet. 
>>> 
>>> It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering 
>>> departments. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- 
>>> Mike Hammett 
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> http://www.ics-il.com 
>>> 
>>> Midwest-IX 
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
>>> 
>>> From: "Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> 
>>> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <[email protected]> 
>>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM 
>>> Subject: Amazon Peering 
>>> 
>>> Hey all, 
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with 
>>> Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this 
>>> Sept and Nov with no response. 
>>> 
>>> I sent to [email protected] and received one automated response back so I 
>>> know they received my email but nothing since. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Darin Steffl 
>>> Minnesota WiFi 
>>> www.mnwifi.com 
>>> 507-634-WiFi 
>>> Like us on Facebook 
>>> 
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> Message: 4 
> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 17:47:31 -0800 
> From: Hal Murray <[email protected]> 
> To: [email protected] 
> Cc: [email protected] 
> Subject: RE: Internet diameter? 
> Message-ID: 
> <[email protected]> 
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> 
> Keith Medcalf said: 
>> "just static content" would be more accurate ... 
> 
> and using http rather than https 
> 
>> There were many attempts at this by Johhny-cum-lately ISPs back in the 90's 
>> -- particularly Telco and Cableco's -- with their "transparent poxies". 
>> Eventually they discovered that it was more cost efficient to actually 
>> provide the customer with what the customer had purchased. 
> 
> One of the complications in this area is an extra layer of logging which 
> could 
> turn into privacy invasion. 
> 
> I'm pretty sure it was Comcast, but a quick search didn't find a good 
> reference. Many years ago, there were a lot of complaints when customers 
> discovered that their transparent proxy web site traffic was getting logged. 
> Comcast said they weren't using it for anything beyond normal operations 
> work, 
> but nobody believed them. Shortly after that, they gave up on proxying. 
> 
> I'm sure the general reputation of modern Telcos and Cablecos for privacy 
> invasion didn't help. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> These are my opinions. I hate spam. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------ 
> 
> Message: 5 
> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 22:05:05 -0800 
> From: Ben Cannon <[email protected]> 
> To: nanog list <[email protected]> 
> Subject: DWDM forums 
> Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 
> 
> Apologies for the noise, but can anyone recommend some DWDM or other 
> glass/laser/amplifier communities or forums? There has to be a ton of overlap 
> with this group. 
> -Ben. 
> 
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