As an IX operator, that doesn't always get you anywhere.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "DurgaPrasad - DatasoftComnet" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:12:48 AM Subject: Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 130, Issue 23 Hi, It's better to copy and take help of the IXP team where you are physically connected. Rgds/DP 9849111010 Sent from my iPhone. Pls excuse brevity and typos if any. > On 25-Nov-2018, at 5:30 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send NANOG mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NANOG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Amazon Peering (Mike Hammett) > 2. Re: Amazon Peering (Darin Steffl) > 3. Re: Amazon Peering (JASON BOTHE) > 4. RE: Internet diameter? (Hal Murray) > 5. DWDM forums (Ben Cannon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 10:38:49 -0600 (CST) > From: Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > To: Darin Steffl <[email protected]> > Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Amazon Peering > Message-ID: > <1966321065.11280.1543077528570.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No > response yet. > > It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering > departments. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> > To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM > Subject: Amazon Peering > > > Hey all, > > > Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with > Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this > Sept and Nov with no response. > > > I sent to [email protected] and received one automated response back so I > know they received my email but nothing since. > > > > > > -- > > > Darin Steffl > Minnesota WiFi > www.mnwifi.com > 507-634-WiFi > Like us on Facebook > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/attachments/20181124/6cca0678/attachment-0001.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 10:59:21 -0600 > From: Darin Steffl <[email protected]> > To: Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Amazon Peering > Message-ID: > <CAH-uaepqS37C43AQzoWxKk8DzT9soM3QAx1=rJ=dvpc0aoj...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering > requests for a year. > > They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all > the other contacts listed in peeringdb. > > Thanks > >> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected] wrote: >> >> I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No >> response yet. >> >> It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering >> departments. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> Midwest-IX >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM >> *Subject: *Amazon Peering >> >> Hey all, >> >> Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established >> with Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times >> this Sept and Nov with no response. >> >> I sent to [email protected] and received one automated response back so >> I know they received my email but nothing since. >> >> >> >> -- >> Darin Steffl >> Minnesota WiFi >> www.mnwifi.com >> 507-634-WiFi >> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/attachments/20181124/a90e9544/attachment-0001.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 11:29:57 -0600 > From: JASON BOTHE <[email protected]> > To: Darin Steffl <[email protected]> > Cc: Mike Hammett <[email protected]>, North American Network Operators' > Group <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Amazon Peering > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > This is a note I received on Oct18 when checking on a peering request > submitted on Aug7.. > > “Apologies for the delays here. We have temporarily frozen IX peering as we > revise some of our automation processes. I’m hopeful this will be unblocked > by early November. Thank you for your continued patience.” > >> On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:59, Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It seems wasteful for Amazon to connect to an IX but then ignore peering >> requests for a year. >> >> They have 40G of connectivity but are unresponsive. I'll try emailing all >> the other contacts listed in peeringdb. >> >> Thanks >> >>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected] wrote: >>> I've e-mailed my contacts there a couple times on people's behalf. No >>> response yet. >>> >>> It seems like a lot of organizations need 1 more person in their peering >>> departments. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> Midwest-IX >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>> >>> From: "Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> >>> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 10:21:51 PM >>> Subject: Amazon Peering >>> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> Does anyone have a direct contact to get a peering session established with >>> Amazon at an IX? I sent a peering request Dec 2017 and two more times this >>> Sept and Nov with no response. >>> >>> I sent to [email protected] and received one automated response back so I >>> know they received my email but nothing since. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Darin Steffl >>> Minnesota WiFi >>> www.mnwifi.com >>> 507-634-WiFi >>> Like us on Facebook >>> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/attachments/20181124/d8823211/attachment-0001.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 17:47:31 -0800 > From: Hal Murray <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Internet diameter? > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Keith Medcalf said: >> "just static content" would be more accurate ... > > and using http rather than https > >> There were many attempts at this by Johhny-cum-lately ISPs back in the 90's >> -- particularly Telco and Cableco's -- with their "transparent poxies". >> Eventually they discovered that it was more cost efficient to actually >> provide the customer with what the customer had purchased. > > One of the complications in this area is an extra layer of logging which > could > turn into privacy invasion. > > I'm pretty sure it was Comcast, but a quick search didn't find a good > reference. Many years ago, there were a lot of complaints when customers > discovered that their transparent proxy web site traffic was getting logged. > Comcast said they weren't using it for anything beyond normal operations > work, > but nobody believed them. Shortly after that, they gave up on proxying. > > I'm sure the general reputation of modern Telcos and Cablecos for privacy > invasion didn't help. > > > -- > These are my opinions. I hate spam. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 22:05:05 -0800 > From: Ben Cannon <[email protected]> > To: nanog list <[email protected]> > Subject: DWDM forums > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Apologies for the noise, but can anyone recommend some DWDM or other > glass/laser/amplifier communities or forums? There has to be a ton of overlap > with this group. > -Ben. > > End of NANOG Digest, Vol 130, Issue 23 > **************************************

