Lots of great questions. Let me try to answer all of them. MSBuild namespace == Microsoft.Build.* Under Build there are a few other namespaces like Tasks.*, Framework.*, Utilities.* and Engine.*
MSBuild shipping vehicle == We will be shipping as part of the .NET redistributable (aka with the CLR) in the "Whidbey" timeframe where "Whidbey" is the codename for the next release of .NET and Visual Studio, and as part of the OS in the "Longhorn" timeframe where "Longhorn" is the codename for the next release of Windows. What do "I" mean when I say core :) == When I said "Core" I meant the core of MSBuild. I was talking about some key MSBuildEngine level concepts that we feel we should patent. To elaborate a little bit on it (and I can't elaborate much), these are concepts that are novel and innovative in the build space, things you can't do today with Makefiles, Ant or NAnt. I can assure everyone that I would not dream of patenting anything that you can already do (or are publicly planning on doing) with Ant or NAnt, like having a declarative model for representing build operations (tasks), or have an XML project file, or how you bind, instantiate or configure a tasks to the project file. The concepts that are undergoing patenting are MSBuild Engine level concepts that we feel are really innovative (and most of them you haven't seen yet). You are absolutely correct when you speak about prior art, and I want to be really clear that we are not even remotely considering patenting anything where there is prior art in Ant or NAnt. In short I'd like to offer that I don't think the few patents we are filling will at all affect NAnt or Ant (and that is by design). As I've said before and I'll say again I LOOOOVE your communities, and I LOOOVE to see all this passion around the build space since I (and the rest of the MSBuild team) share that passion. I also feel I should explain a little bit how we approach patents at Microsoft and why we do it. We file patents not to deter other folks (like you) from innovating in the future, but rather as a defensive mechanism. This way when people come after us we have patents as one potential avenue of defense. Hopefully this clarifies a bit the issue. I'm sorry for being vague but as you guessed I'm not really at liberty to talk about patent things in detail, as I'm not a lawyer. I think I have said too much already :), and can feel legal breathing down my neck :). Alex Kipman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Program Manager Visual Studio Core Team -- This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stefan Bodewig Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [nant-dev] FYI On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Scott Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When talking about the .net core, we really need context. I thought so, thanks for the details. > I'm not sure about the details of how and where microsoft is > planning on inserting the build stuff. I suspect it will probably go > into the System.Build.* namespaces (or somewhere around there) Looking into the RemoveDirectory sample task from the PDC set Bob has sent a link to last week: using Microsoft.Build.Framework; using Microsoft.Build.Utilities; which seems logical to me. Cheers Stefan -- http://stefanbodewig.blogger.de/ ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ nant-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nant-developers ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ nant-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nant-developers
