On 2009-01-30 07:00, Ted Hardie wrote:
> At 2:58 PM -0800 1/28/09, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> On 2009-01-29 01:58, Margaret Wasserman wrote:
>>> This is an excellent idea.  I wonder if there is a way to phrase this as
>>> a constructive agenda item?  Maybe "the case against NAT in IPv6" or
>>> something like that?
>> Either that, or simply declare the topic out of scope. Certainly
>> it must not block the main discussion.
> 
> Hmm, since the main point of a BoF in the IETF is to determine
> whether or not the community supports the working going forward
> here, I would have some trouble with a move to declare out of
> scope the objections.  If you're going to do that, skip the BoF, eh?
> 
> Managing the time so that people can describe the proposed work
> and discuss it is rationally is clearly necessary.  But if someone
> gets up at the mic and says "this class of activity damages my use
> of the Internet", that can't be out of scope for a BoF like this. 

That's OK, as long as there is space for the counter-argument,
which goes "this is going to happen anyway, so we need to
write a spec that minimizes the damage." But those positions being
stated, they shouldn't prevent the technical discussion. Personally,
I think the existence of those two positions is well established
and not very productive to spend time on. I agree with *both*
of them, by the way.

   Brian
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