>> If a BOF is to take place, I'd very much like to see a presentation from a
>> potential *customer* for this technology about why they think they need it.
>
> Fred Baker did include a "customer" presentation (why the Cisco IT
> department requires an IPv6 NAT) in his slides at the BEHAVE WG meeting in
> MInneapolis.

With all due respect, I was not convinced that the customer use case
presented was derived from actual IPv6 experience.  Specifically: I
fully believe that there's a bunch of experience with the problem in
IPv4, as described in draft-baker-v6ops-b2b-private-routing-00,
however I was unconvinced that a solution had actually been attempted
in IPv6.  Furthermore, Fred's approach in this draft is to recommend
the use of ULAs, which seems like a perfectly fine solution (the
security concerns don't seem fleshed out nor particularly convincing,
and I've never been convinced by arguments that devolve into "someone
could make a configuration error").  So it seems to me like this draft
does *not* count as a case pro IPv6 NAT.  It seems to me that ULAs +
SPI firewalling (+ optional application-layer gateways, as needed) can
be used to solve this particular problem very effectively.

I hope I'm not too rude by asking to see the actual customer pain, as
opposed to the customer fear, which I consider different.

Solving the multihoming problem, though, is still another matter...
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