+1 to what Keith said.

-Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Moore [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 1:23 PM
> To: james woodyatt
> Cc: Lixia Zhang; Dave Thaler; [email protected] Discussion
> Subject: Re: [nat66] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-iab-ipv6-nat-00.txt
>
> james woodyatt wrote:
> > On Mar 19, 2009, at 20:39, Lixia Zhang wrote:
> >>
> >> We should have sent a FYI about this draft earlier.  Comments are
> most
> >> welcome!
> >
> > There are three places in the draft where the phrase "end-to-end
> > reachability" is used when I would say that "end-to-end
> addressability"
> > would make the point more clearly.  Because IAB and IETF have well
> > embraced the notion that policy enforcing stateful firewalls should
> be
> > widely deployed in the Internet, we've long ago pitched out the
> notion
> > that Internet nodes should be end-to-end reachable.
>
> Internet nodes should be e2e reachable unless there is explicit policy
> to the contrary from an enterprise network where the traffic originates
> or terminates.
>
>  The argument over
> > NAT has always been about end-to-end addressability, not
> reachability.
>
> Disagree.  NATs impair both addressability and reachability, and we do
> a
> disservice to the community if we pretend otherwise.  NAT (really NAPT)
> does harm to reachability because it blocks traffic in one direction
> even if this is not explicit policy, and NAPT limits the flexibility of
> a site to choose a policy that takes application usage into account.
> NAT
> can also impair reachability when binding state is lost or discarded.
>
> Keith

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