On Mar 30, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Keith Moore wrote:

Tom Pusateri wrote:
So once you limit NAT for IPv6 to a 1:1 mapping (i.e. you no longer
share an address), then it seems like there's isn't a big advantage over
an application gateway.

wtf? application gateways have to be written for each protocol, whereas
NATs do not (at least for those protocols that don't do referrals).

that makes for a huge deployment mess. it also breaks apps when the end
points upgrade their protocols and the ALGs don't keep track.

Keith

(now if we're going to have NATs at all, I'm a big fan of having a
standard signaling/control protocol that should work for all NATs. but
that's not the same as an application gateway)



You miss the point. If someone wants to build a big box that controls traffic and sneakily fabricates headers, they can build a big box that does it upfront and follows the end to end model without altering the packets. It doesn't have to be exactly what people are calling application gateways today.

A NAT firewall box that filters everything but the few applicatons that they want to allow through smells alot like multiple application gateways. Especially when they throw deep packet inspection into the mix.

Thanks,
Tom
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