On Apr 9, 2009, at 16:50, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
On 2009-04-10 09:53, james woodyatt wrote:
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Actually, a PI prefix doesn't make the problem go away. Apple has a PI prefix now: 2620:0:1b00::/45, and our IS&T managers are *still* planning to deploy IPv6/NAT boxes to facilitate separation of traffic for public-facing services and B2B extranet services.

Sigh. It defeats me why people believe this will create less admin work and less likelihood of errors than a set of ACLs in the border routers.

It's the multiple prefixes thing, of course. That, and the ongoing related worries, perhaps not entirely rational, about possible unexpected side effects of default address selection. They think having just one set of prefixes to route through the enterprise will be a lot simpler and much less prone to administrative error. I can't, of course, argue about that-- I simply don't know.

[...] about NAT66's constraint of /48 for the maximum prefix length for the NAT range: it's unacceptably short, and they're insisting that vendors need to have an IPv6/NAT solution that operates with prefixes up to /64 at minimum. [...]

I fully agree that /64 is needed. The IPv6 addressing architecture really leaves no choice on that.

There was also some grousing when I mentioned that we don't think address amplification is a worthy goal for any new 6AI standards effort. They've grown quite accustomed to using asymmetric translation to conserve address space in various parts of their network, and they're worried that its lacking in NAT66 will be a source of additional headache for them.

They really like their NAPT gateways, and the thought of planning to go without them into combat leaves them far, far away from their happy comfort zone. I wish I knew how to soothe their nerves.


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james woodyatt <[email protected]>
member of technical staff, communications engineering


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