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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 3:34 AM
Subject: Digest for [EMAIL PROTECTED], issue 299


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Hi: I am Kiowa and Irish.  I have gained a lot of knowledge from this list
and feel we have a great bunch.  I am a mother, grand mother and great
grandmother.  I live in Oregon at the foot of the Cascade mountains and it
is beautiful. I am retired due to health problems.  Frannie
> I walk across this Land - ShyHawk(FM)
> By [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> DO WE WANT INDEPENDENCE?
> By [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Re: I walk across this Land - ShyHawk(FM)
> By [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Re: New list members
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> Re: Hello everyone
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> Hello from Waking Dove
> By [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 07:55:38 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: I walk across this Land - ShyHawk(FM)
>
>
>
>
>     I WALK ACROSS THIS LAND
>
>   I I walk across this land
>     On a thin highway of Brown
>     Many of these paths still exist
>     If one knows where they can be found
>
>     Many now stolen
>     And Paved over in Black
>     Like the land before them
>     The Oyate (people) will never have them back
>
>     Each day another Sacred Place
>     Or forest is lost
>     The Government tells us
>     For progress, this is the cost
>
>     At dawn, the sun rises
>     A new day is born
>     My heart again is filled with faith and hope
>     No bitterness or scorn
>
>     Yet as the night approaches
>     The day begins to die
>         More losses have been suffered
>     My heart begins to cry
>
>     Grandmother reminds me
>     INA s (Mother Earth) time line is long
>     Unlike us
>       Our pain and life in a moment will be gone
>
>     Then in the sky is heard, the shrill call of a circling messenger
>     My heart is uplifted and made aware
>     Creator constantly looks upon us
>     Each day Creators gifts are still given in love and with care
>
>     All is in accord
>     With Creators Plan
>       Tomorrow will start a new
>        Awakening across this Land
>
>                       Written by ShyHawk(FM)
>                        Summer 2001
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 09:02:50 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: DO WE WANT INDEPENDENCE?
>
>
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> Indepence: not influeneced, or controlled, by others; refusing to be under
> obligation to others.
>
> Food for thought, this July 4, 2001.
> Kay
>
> "APATHY is the real Enemy...The Cause of  Our "Dis-ease."
> And, WE are the only Cure."
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times
New Roman" LANG="0">Indepence: not influeneced, or controlled, by others;
refusing to be under
> <BR>obligation to others.
> <BR>
> <BR>Food for thought, this July 4, 2001.
> <BR>Kay
> <BR>
> <BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New
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> <BR>And, WE are the only Cure."</FONT></HTML>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 07:18:51 -0700
> From: "Teddie Seeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Native_American] I walk across this Land - ShyHawk(FM)
>
>
> <html><DIV>
> <P><STRONG>Shyhawk,</STRONG></P>
> <P><STRONG>That was beautiful........</STRONG></P>
> <P><STRONG>teddie...<BR><BR></P></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: [Native_American] I walk across this Land -
ShyHawk(FM)
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 07:55:38 EDT
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
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> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; I WALK ACROSS THIS LAND
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; I I walk across this land
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; On a thin highway of Brown
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Many of these paths still exist
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; If one knows where they can be found
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Many now stolen
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; And Paved over in Black
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Like the land before them
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; The Oyate (people) will never have them back
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Each day another Sacred Place
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Or forest is lost
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; The Government tells us
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; For progress, this is the cost
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; At dawn, the sun rises
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; A new day is born
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; My heart again is filled with faith and hope
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; No bitterness or scorn
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Yet as the night approaches
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; The day begins to die
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; More losses have been suffered
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; My heart begins to cry
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Grandmother reminds me
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; INA s (Mother Earth) time line is long
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Unlike us
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Our pain and life in a moment will be gone
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Then in the sky is heard, the shrill call of a circling
messenger
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; My heart is uplifted and made aware
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Creator constantly looks upon us
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Each day Creators gifts are still given in love and with
care
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; All is in accord
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; With Creators Plan
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Tomorrow will start a new
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Awakening across this Land
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Written by ShyHawk(FM)
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Summer 2001
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
>
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> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 17:30:45 -0400
> From: "candyschoice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Native_American] New list members
>
>
> Hey Good Heart Woman,  will leave for Pine Ridge on July 29th for Nations
> Powwow and junior rodeo.  Have you heard if Bats is back in business??
> Candy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Native_American] New list members
>
>
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> > Hepela!
> > or at least to be a part of the network!
> > Hello, I am Elaine from Santa Fe New Mexico, I am Lenni Lenape (not
> registered) and a
> > wonderful mix of Italian and Spainsh. The best of both worlds!
> >
> > I am the director of a non-profit grassroots group called Citizens for
> Environmental
> > Safeguards working to protect our water, earth, air and fire.  I invite
> you to visit our
> > website at
> > <http://www.environmentalsafeguards.com>
> >
> > For the past 10 years, I have made relations with, who is now my family,
> the Ogalala
> > Lakota people of Wakpamni Lake, the Two Crow and Has No Horse family.
> >
> > Every 4th of July there is a powwow at Wakpamni lake, this is a year I
can
> not atttend
> > and I will miss my family very much. If any of you live close by you
> should go it's great
> > fun!
> >
> > Most the time I just listen to the e-news and hopefully hear about
> family/friends and
> > what's up in Indian Country.
> > Pila'maye,
> > Elaine
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> >
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> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 20:00:28 -0400
> From: "candyschoice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Native_American] Hello everyone
>
>
> Hey Deborah and Dutch--I'm in Michigan but only 2mi from Indiana line--am
I
> close?   Candy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 10:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Native_American] Hello everyone
>
>
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> > ============================================================
> >
> > In a message dated 29-Jun-01 12:51:25 Eastern Daylight Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > << Darla what part of Ohio do you live in. I live in Ohio
> >  also. How many here live in Ohio?
> >                             Deborah Freeman
> >   >>
> > And what part of Ohio do you all live in??
> > I live near Cincinnati
> >
> > in spirit and love
> > Dutch
> >
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> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 22:18:04 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Native_American] Hello everyone
>
>
> In a message dated 01-Jul-01 18:57:48 Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> <<
>  Hey Deborah and Dutch--I'm in Michigan but only 2mi from Indiana line--am
I
>  close?   Candy >>
>
> We both live in southwestern Ohio were Ohio,Kentucky, and Indiana meet
>
> in spirit and love
> Dutch
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon,  2 Jul 2001 03:06:18 +0000
> From:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: New list members
>
>
> Hi everyone! My name is Deborah and I live in Missouri.
> I joined your list a while back under [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have since switched to another service. My new e-mail address is:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have truly enjoyed the conversations and
> discussions among the friendly people of this gruoup. The Creator must
> surely be smiling on this gathering of friends.
>
>
> candyschoice wrote:
> > Argue?---shoot Ronni--we don't argue--just converse lively.  I am Candy
> > from Michigan and I don't do anything but work, work, and then do some
> > more work.  Travel to Pine Ridge every year and will leave the end of
> > July again.  Candy
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Ronni Hoessli
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 10:48 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [Native_American] New list members
> >
> >
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> > Wild Horse suggested, I'm introducing myself to the new list members and
> > saying - Welcome!
> >   I'm Ronni, and I'm pretty quiet. I leave most of the
> >   discussion/argument/conversation up to everyone else and just soak up
> >   the information as much as I can. I'm a writer and an editor, so
> >   learning and research is part of my business, which just gives me an
> >   excuse to do what I love best!
> >
> >   Anyway, welcome aboard!
> >
> >   Ronni
> >
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> > merger of the NAvoices email list into the Native_American list is now
> > complete. This merger has added 63 new members and I would like to
> > welcome everyone to the list. Please take the time and introduce
> > yourself to the others. And that goes to both the old and the new!!!
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon,  2 Jul 2001 08:22:34 +0000
> From:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Hello from Waking Dove
>
>
> It's been quite awhile since I posted here, so I thought I'd
> re-introduce myself to old and new alike.
>
> Lightowl and I currently live in western North Carolina, though we have
> spent many years on the road, and living in places like California,
> Florida, Arkansas to name a few.
>
> I myself am of Tsalagi (Western), Blackfoot, and Lenni Lenape (Miami
> Delaware) descent. I am a direct descendant of Francis Slocum. I was
> born and raised in southern California, and though given an Indian name
> at birth, was not raised as a traditional. I began "returning to my
> roots" in my twenties.
>
> I empathize with Spiritdove -- my real, legal name is Waking Dove and
> both Lightowl and I have to deal with New Agers who 1) somewhat copy the
> names or 2) pester us with questions about our "real(?) names. Mine was
> given to me by a Cherokee Clanmother and the actual spelling and
> pronunciation, like yours, is kept off the web.
>
> Lightowl is about 95% Tsalagi (Eastern), the rest of his background is
> Haida (Canada).
>
> I am 48, have three grown daughters, and five grandchildren.
>
> We have had our website COUNCILFIRE (http://www.councilfire.com) on the
> Internet for over five years, and are getting ready to publish a large,
> bi-weekly Native American newspaper.
>
> We are planning to be on the road again in about a year (depending on
> current health problems).
>
> That's all I can think of for now, other than to tell some of you I
> already know not to give up on me -- I'm still alive and well :-)!
>
> Love,
> Waking Dove
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
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> http://members.tripod.com/GrassRootsOyate
>
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>
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>
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