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Don Chisholm:

>Yes, probably the kind of changes I speak of would have to come from a very
>strong mindset. I suspect any controlling paradigm gets that way as a
>default characteristic of Homo sapiens.

There is nothing I fear more than that default characteristic.  History has
provided ample demonstration that it always kicks in.  Two principles of
social behaviour that I hold sacred are: 1) respect each others' views; and
2) leave each other alone.  To me, this implies a diversity of opinion, and
no dominant mindsets.  It allows for strong mindsets, but implies a system
of rights and laws which ensures that these cannot impose themselves on
other mindsets which do not buy into them.  But now I suppose I'm being the
idealist.

With respect to Sylvia Austerlic, the design of an information system which
gives voice to nature sounds like a nice idea.  But I would ask whose
children she intends to involve in this.  If it is her own, that is fine.
However, if it were mine, I would have to ask her some very serious
questions, and, from the little piece you posted, I doubt very much that I
would buy in.  It's just a little too warm and fuzzy.

Ed Weick


auctioned to
               highest bidders

http://cnn.com/US/9903/15/heritage.for.sale.ap/index.html

               March 15, 1999 
               Web posted at: 10:21 AM EST (1521 GMT) 

               MONROE, Connecticut (AP) --
               As auction-goers bid thousands of dollars for artifacts
created long ago by members of her
               Schaghticokes Indian tribe, Paulette Crone-Morange's heart
sank. 

               Among the pieces on sale from a private collection: a basket
woven in the 1800s by Harry
               Harris, her great-grandfather. Crone-Morange watched
helplessly as it was sold to
               another bidder -- she couldn't afford it. 

               "We just don't have the money to purchase these things back,"
               Crone-Morange said last week. 

               Poor in comparison to tribes like the Mohegans or Pequots, the
               Schaghticokes are hard-pressed to buy artifacts when they are
               sold from private collections. A recent increase in demand for
               Native American works has added to the problem. 

               The items auctioned off along with Crone-Morange's family
               basket came from the collection of the late Lyent Russell, a
Yale
               professor who'd amassed hundreds of Native American artifacts
               prior to his death last year. His entire collection netted over
               $100,000 at the November auction. 

               Crone-Morange, who traces her Schaghticoke heritage to 1687,
               did manage to buy six other baskets -- spending $1,700 of her
               own money. But five others were bid out of her price range and
               purchased by dealers and private collectors. 

               Watching collectors push the bidding up, Crone-Morange recalled
               her growing frustration. 

               "I'm getting angry, saying, 'But these mean nothing to you. This
               is our family,"' she said. 

               Chief Richard Velky, head of the 300-member tribe which has its
               offices in a small building in Monroe, said outsiders buying
tribal
               artifacts amounted to "purchasing bits and pieces of our soul." 

               "If it was a crucifix, a torah scroll or a tombstone, I
doubt these
               items would fall under an auctioneer's hammer," he said. 

               Hoping to retrieve other lost artifacts, Schaghticoke tribal
officials
               have asked people who own baskets or other tribal items to
               donate them to a future Schaghticoke museum, or at least to give
               the tribe first chance to buy them. 

               "This is our heritage. We have more interest in it than the
dollars
               and cents the white man puts on it," Velky said. 

               Tribal members said they tried to contact Russell's daughter
after
               his death to ask if she would donate or sell them the 11
               Schaghticoke baskets in her father's collection. They say she
               never responded. 

               But Russell's daughter, Carol Knight, said the tribe offered no
               money. "My feeling is that my father bought them. He paid
               money for them," she said. 

               Knight said the tribal member who asked her to donate the
               baskets claimed they were sacred tribal objects. 

               "But sacred objects, to me, are used in burial or religious
               activities," Knight said. "These were not that. These were made
               for sale." 

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