And now:Ish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: <A HREF="http://www.lvrj.com/lvrj_home/1999/May-03-Mon-1999/news/11093827.html">h ttp://www.lvrj.com/lvrj_home/1999/May-03-Mon-1999/news/11093827.html</A> ======================================================= Monday, May 03, 1999 Las Vegas Review-Journal ATOMIC CLOUD CLEARED By Keith Rogers Review-Journal For more than 40 years, Bob Mackenzie and some 200 other Marines in a special South Pacific unit couldn't talk about what they did in the service, not with their wives, not with their children, not with their friends. But last week, free of the secrecy wraps that had shrouded their military careers, the atomic veterans got their say. Gathered for a reunion at The Orleans, Mackenzie and the 43 other remaining members of the Marine detachment assigned to the USS Curtiss from 1951 to 1956 told their stories. "We were in charge of the security of all the atomic weapons in the South Pacific," Mackenzie, 66, said Friday, the day after the detachment was honored with certificates from the House, Senate and Department of Energy. Still vivid in his memory was the flash and heat from the 15-megaton Bravo thermonuclear test at the Bikini atoll on Feb. 28, 1954. With the Curtiss, where the device was assembled, afloat about 15 miles away, the Marines had been ordered to sit on the deck facing away from the detonation area. "The heat and the light was so intense, I really, really felt we weren't going to make it," Mackenzie said. "I remember people -- the Navy folks -- running and people saying we're going to die. We didn't move. "The heat, it started burning and burning and burning. The light was so bright you could see through your arms and see your bones. I had black welder's goggles on, with my eyes closed as tight as I could, away from the blast. I thought I would lose my sight," he said in a telephone interview. Mackenzie, who attended Las Vegas High School before joining the Marines, said when he turned around on that muggy, February day, he thought he would see a mushroom cloud. Instead, he said, "I turned around and we were in the mushroom with all the colors." "It was like the ocean was bumping up and down and (the shock wave) was heading toward the ship. When it hit, it was like a full salvo," he said. "It took the ship and shook it like it was a peanut. That shock wave was so strong, we thought we were on fire and going down. Then they made an announcement that everybody had to go inside the ship and button up. We were right in the middle of the fallout." Mackenzie, who was a corporal at the time, said it wasn't until about two years ago when the secrecy surrounding their mission was lifted in time for the unit's first reunion. "Our wives didn't know what we were doing." He said the ship, formally called the USS Curtiss AV-4, was designed prior to World War II as a support ship for seaplanes. "After World War II, the Atomic Energy Commission got a hold of it and converted it for a secret operation. Its main function was to support all the nuclear weapons and assemble them aboard ship," he said. Last week's reunion for Mackenzie's unit was similar to one held in Hollywood, Calif., in 1997 for 24 members of the nation's secret Lookout Mountain Studio, which filmed U.S. nuclear weapons tests and had been held to the same level of secrecy. Members of the Lookout Mountain group produced more than 6,500 films primarily for the Air Force's 1352nd Motion Picture Squadron. Many of the films are still undergoing declassification. ======================================================= Photo caption---- Memories of mushroom clouds flashed last week through the minds of former Marines assigned to guard atomic devices during the 1950s tests in the South Pacific. They were honored with congressional certificates during a dinner Thursday at The Orleans. This mushroom cloud was from a thermonuclear test, dubbed Ivy Mike, that was fired on Enewetak on Oct. 31, 1952. Its energetic yield was about the same as exploding 10.4 million tons of TNT. ==================================================== Comments: Here they speak of the glowing gases produced in an atomic explosion------typically very high active gases of isotopes of xenon and krypton in the highest yields. These go on thru decay to become fallout of things like Sr-90 and Cs-137. At the same time the air begain to glow-------all radio signals into and away from the ships stopped. Just like in a space capsule reentry-----the ionized air is conductive to elecricity and radiowaves. The many liberated electrons result in the electromagnetic current pulse if the detonation was a high altitudes. These conduction gas and air effects are associated with the RADAR invisible things converned with the Philadelphia Project. This project used these ionized gases to get a ship past the Japanese Pacific RADAR network. It worked -----but the initial experiments killed all the animals and later screwed up a lot of the sailors. Freshly dissoved reactor fuels also give off these glowing gases------as do some criticality accidents. These ionizations make lots of ozone as well. All extremely toxic in the short and long term. Many associate this glowing air or cloud with things like the episode of Prince of Egypt-------where Moses reaches into a glowing fire and it does not burn him. Tales of the Burning Bush imagery. Short term exposures you can get away with------but it can turn you hair white. Remember all the cows and horses in the west where fallout was on their backs and splotches of white appeared. Well this is the same deal with Moses and the Miracle Mark. These associations ar why many of the nuke scientists have long associated the power of the Arc with that of nuclear energy effects. And sure enough-----we are finding these old world societies were much smarter than most know. I was once in a nuke gas release like this-------it is a rare experience you don't wanna do. They classified these effects ---- simply because it relates to these associations. A little more of the great secrets are leaking out. It is good. It will make some changes-----long needed ones. More like the promissed revelations. It is not the end----but a beginning. A whole new world. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: the best source for group communications. http://www.onelist.com Join today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ DOEWatch List --- Subscribe online: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/doewatch"We have discovered the most terrible bomb in the history of the world. It may be the fire destruction prophesized in the Euphrates Valley Era, after Noah and his fabulous Ark. Anyway we think we have found the way to cause the disintegration of the atom." -Quote from Truman's diary July 25, 45 after Pottsdam and the "baby was born"""The Doctor of the future will give No Medicine, but will interest his patients in the care of the human frame, in diet, and in the cause and prevention of disease."."-Attributed to Thomas Alva Edisonn"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act"t"-George Orwell Reprinted under the fair use http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html doctrine of international copyright law. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Tsonkwadiyonrat (We are ONE Spirit) Unenh onhwa' Awayaton http://www.tdi.net/ishgooda/ &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
