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NETWARRIORS FRONTLINE REPORTS
17th WGIP 7/30/99
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[excerpts from the western hemisphere]
Indigenous Relatives and Supporters:

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Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization

Monitor Working Group on Indigenous Populations

17th Session 26 July - 30 July

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Group, but represents substantially what was communicated during the
meetings. UNPO apologizes for any inaccuracies. If you have corrections,
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Wednesday July 28, 1999
Day 3, Afternoon Session

1. Chair Mrs. E. Daes: Opened the session at 15 :14 and requested delegates
to restrict comments to item number 5.

4. Ambassador S. A. Seifert Observer Government of Bolivia: She wanted to
take the opportunity to describe the governmental policies relating to IP.
Substantive progress has been made to recognize the rights to land and
access to natural recourses for IP in the constitutional reform in 1994.
The indigenous population is now recognized by the constitution. For the
first time, the constitution recognizes land rights as collective rights.
Before this reform, we only recognized the right to hand over land for
agricultural use. Now community lands are also under this provision and are
protected under the constitutional court. The legal scope of these
provisions has been determined.Community lands cannot be handed over or
sold to third persons and the territory will be governed under the local
rules and customs. In accordance with them, they consider the rights and
laws of IP if not in conflict with national legislation. Small farms and
community property are exempt from taxes and agricultural property
payments. These are main achievements under the new law. With regards to
forest resources IP are guaranteed exclusive use of forest on community
lands of origin therefore there is no need for prior authorisation for
domestic or traditional use of the forest. Any non indigenous person must
acquire a forest concession. The IP do not need the concession.

21. Mr. Ramopn Conde Mamami-Taller Historia Oral Andina: Said he was
satisfied by his participation in the WG meeting. He felt was free to
express what was happening in Bolivia in regards to their relation to land.
Bolivia has a new constitution and IP are now recognized constitutionally.
However the state does not implement the new laws and most of the
indigenous population is unaware of the new rules. Many tribes continue to
be subject to colonial policies. This is why they feel they need to rebuild
their traditional society. What they are seeking is control over their
land, and the management of renewable and non-renewable resources. They are
aware of being the legitimate owners of the land. The deeds passing the
land to the Spanish are being traced in the archives. However the new law
says that the land needs to be developed within a ten year timeframe. Four
years have already gone. He called upon governments to assist in developing
traditional lands. He hoped for dignity and equity amongst people around
the world.

22. Mr. Jesus Candelario Cocio/Congreso Nacional Indigena Union de
Comunidades Indigenas Wixaritari de Mexico: Mexico is facing difficulties
in recognizing the multi nationality of the population. His community was
searching for social justice throughout Mexico but found that the political
will is lacking. Land for them is a definite area as it is for other IP.
The creative forces in land maintain a balance in life. The natural habitat
earth is not separate for us. We must respect it so that life can go on.
National states should recognize the title deeds of native populations.
Holy places should be recognized within communal territories. IP should be
consulted on infrastructure projects. Recently a road was to be built
through a secret holy place. Mother earth gives us life and we give it back
in return.

24. Victor Alonquo Boudon/Sociedad para el Desarrollo Mapuche: The
relationship between IP and land derives from the impulse that land gives
to IP, the ability to find loved ones. It is not just a structure it is
important for survival. He agreed with those describing it as a support.
There is a definite spiritual cycle to do with the family. This is lost
once a state government starts using the lands and thereby IP lose their
social structure. There is a lack of will to recognize indigenous land
rights but government also does not recognize this link between us and our
land. As a social worker, he had seen many women who fell victim to
violence from their husbands. We may not allow ourselves to fall into the
same trap as the Western world. The relation to land can be preserved
through education. He agreed with those who felt that dignity is important
and should exist in the family.

25. Observer Government of Switzerland: The need for a general vision on
Indigenous issues and for specific protection of IP can be seen in their
relation to land. The interaction between land and IP are often
complementary. Their needs are not made up by a natural framework but are
also reflected in a cultural link. There exists a possibility for the
enjoyment of their environment and the enjoyment of social, political and
economical rights at the same time. This is possible if the land rights are
protected under law. Which in turn is possible by registering land titles
in a land register. The Swiss government supports sustainable methods of
farming and breeding. With their particular relation to land, IP play an
important role in this kind of environmental management. In order for the
experience of IP to continue to bear fruit for all, these peoples must be
granted their rights and they must be adequately represented in decision
making bodies. What is decided locally does not have to be centralized
nationally. More ideas can be found in the general guidelines that
Switzerland has deliberated with NGO's. In turning to the most
disadvantaged nations, donor countries should not forget the IP amongst
them.

26. Mr. Jean Auberic Charles/Federation des Organisations Amerindiennes de
Guyane (France): The existence of IP on the territory now French Guyane
dates back to before the French presence. Their relation with the land is
the basis of their existence. He compared his people to stateless peoples
in site French Guyana. Several resolutions have been submitted with the
government. They must be treated with equality. The case of French Guyane
is particularly sad as France is a developed nation. He urged that the
relation between the IP and the government of France be brought in
conformation with the international treaties that France is party to. He
referred in particular to ILO 169.

28. Alejandro Cruz Lopez/Consejo Indigena Popular Ricardo Flores Magon: The
IP of Mexico suffer of the taking over of their lands and natural
resources. In 1992, the Mexican government reformed article 27 of the
constitution of the country. This destroyed the revolutionary principles
which were fought and died for by millions between 1910 and 1917. Article
27 established that communal lands could not be sold or bought nor could
ownership be transferred. No one could acquire communal lands by utilizing
it for a certain time. The land belonged to the people who had it as a
territory. The reform means an individual utilizing land can acquire it as
private property thus eliminating the communal band and allowing for
transfer of land to private individuals. Someone outside of the community
can now take over the land. The poverty of the Mexicans means they are an
easy pray for multi nationals taking over the natural resources of the
people of Mexico. An agreement between the government and IP deals with the
autonomy of IP over their natural resources. Mexico has an enormous dept
that it will want to pay of using these resources. Subsidies for rural
areas are now only used in election times and we fear that our resources
will be exploited by the government. Our culture that has existed for 1000
of years is thus threatened with destruction.

29. Helena Begay/Souvereign Dine Nation: All land is sacred to my nation
and every day is a festive day as we pray to thank for life. The land
dispute between the United States government and the Navajo-Hopi people
continues to exist without a resolution. She seeks the HCHR to intervene in
this crisis. They face a deadline to leave their lands before February
2000, so that a mining company can destroy their lands. They are under
pressure to sign the relocation agreement or to be forced to be relocated
to the new lands. These lands are radioactively contaminated areas. Their
lands are being stripmined regardless of the presence of burial sites and
holy places. They did not ask to be fenced in or to sign treaties but wish
to live by their own traditional laws. She urged the special rapporteur to
continue her good work.

30. Mr. Estebancio Castro/Movimiento de la Juventud Kuna: Officially, the
UN has been dealing with Indigenous issues since 1949. But since 1982 when
the WG was set up we have been able to express ourselves about our relation
to land, the Rio declaration, ILO 169, the draft declaration etc. They
understand their land to be their mother and hence their culture and not
just a means of production. There should be respect for all the components
of land and hence land should be protected. They have been suffering
serious damage to their lands due to mining. Our right to life on the land
is granted but the government still holds the right to exploit its subsoil
resources. So they find themselves in the absurd situation of recognition
of their right to land but not of the subsoil of the land. Because of the
urgent needs of IP states should recognize their right to land, language,
culture and preservation of natural recourses. He suggested that the
relation between IP and land becomes a permanent agenda item. It should
recommended to the sub-commission to study principals and guidelines to
solve problems relating to land rights.

31. Lazaro Pary/Indian Movement Tupaj Amaru: Referred to a written
statement by the Indian movement and one by the Aboriginals of north
Russia. He wanted to know what had happened to them? Reading the report, he
would like to make some comments. Mrs. Daes had used abundant material and
cited many publications. The study is a main contribution to the claim of
indigenous nations to their native land. However it does not take
sufficiently into account the problems relating to terra nulius. It will
not be sufficient to note simply the ancestrial relation. The indigenous
question is inseparable from the land. The colonizer has broken the balance
between IP and their land. Now an extra grave threat exists in the form of
multi national companies. He suggested to add to the draft declaration, the
right to collective ownership of land that has been occupied as well as
sovereign control over natural resources. Accord to GA 1803, the IP should
have permanent sovereignty over their natural resources. The right to
compensation should be extended to injury and harm. They have, also,
suffered as a result form pollutants used for the production of great
profits. He urged the members of the WG to recommend to investigate the
conflicts between multi nationals and indigenous land.

34. Mr. Hjalmar Dahl Inuit Circumpolar Conference: No significant progress
has been made since the first WG. Although the draft declaration has been
passed by the WG, it has not made progress on its way to the GA. This is
due to the mention of the right to SD. Is this due to the mention of the
right of land and the right to self determination? Inuit cannot live
without their land and their water. Our right to harvest and hunt is a
collective right. We also have the right to the surface and sub-surface
resources. Earlier, I mentioned the case of Thule and the forced relocation
of the IP. The Danish High Court will deliver its verdict on this case in
August this year. The prime minister of Denmark disputes that the IP have
the rights they claim. Denmark however ratified ILO 169 and therefore
granted IP a right to their land. We await in great anticipation the
verdict of the Danish high court. He requested the WG members to have
relation to land as a permanent agenda item. He also requested the WG to be
extended to hold a 10 day meeting.

35. Chair Mrs. E. Daes: She pointed out that the extension of the meeting
is not up to Working Group members but up to CHR. She announced that Mr.
Dahl had been the last speaker. She thanked the interpreters for staying 15
minutes longer. Requested participants to bring copies of their
intervention for the interpreters and the secretariat. She then gave the
floor to the Secretary

36. Secretary Mr. J. Burger: Announced that the indigenous caucus would
meet in room 22 immediately after the session. Tomorrow, the indigenous
reception would be held. The World Commission on Dams would give a
presentation on Thursday 9:00 in room 25. Finally, he passed on a request
from WHO, to fill in the questionnaire in the back of the room.

37. Chair Mrs. E. Daes: She reminded the participant that there were still
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