Further thoughts: the problem with the "launcher" trick is that it only works for opening a nautilus window from an already opened directory; however, you cannot use launchers from elsewhere, for instance from within a file open dialog box. In other words, the launcher trick does not truly implement the notion of a navigation shortcut which, I am sorry say, is a very useful feature in Windows. [As soon as you have a big directory structure and start to use a graphics interface,
navigation shortcuts (for easy handling of current projects) are extremely useful.] Now, if someone were to implement navigation shortcuts in Linux, he/she might as well do them in a dynamic fashion: if I move or reorganize part of my tree structure, all of the shortcuts are broken; a dynamic shortcut (implemented using backward links in the target directory) would repair them on the fly. (This was my wishful thought of the day.) Cheers -e 2008/8/10 Emmanuel Dupoux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 2008/8/10 Christian Neumair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Am Freitag, den 08.08.2008, 08:20 +0200 schrieb Emmanuel Dupoux: >> > if you open a directory through a symbolic link >> > you are stuck in the subpart of the directory tree that is pointed by >> > the link. >> > It is a major pain in the neck. Is there a way to access the .. >> > directory? >> >> No, because that's how symbolic links are supposed to work, and how they >> work in a UNIX shell. > > > You are perfectly right! I was so much used to the Windows shortcuts, > I thought it worked the same in Unix. [There is a slight inconsistency > within nautilus, > though, that confused me: when you open a term using the right > click 'open in a terminal' within a directory pointed to via a symbolic > link, it does open it with the 'real' physical path, not the symbolic > path.] > > If you want a shortcut rather than a "pseudo >> duplicate", you have to create a launcher, for instance by >> right-clicking on the desktop, chosing "Create Launcher..." and entering >> the target URI into the dialog. You can then move the launcher wherever >> you want. > > > yes; I created a launcher for nautilus with the appropriate directory as > target; > it works perfectly; thanks! > > I have been thinking about more intuitive ways of exposing the launcher >> vs. symbolic link concept, but I could not come up with a satisfying >> solution. Maybe both should be called "Link", and for local links you >> have two right-click context menu entries >> >> [ ] Symbolic Link >> [X] Launchable Link, or Shortcut > > > > This would be great! (Shortcut is a good name) > by the way, this would allow to modify the path of the symbolic > link, which you cannot do at present. > > Toggling would replace the symlink with a launcher and vice versa. The >> proposed naming is poor, a concise naming that is intuitive for the >> majority of users has to be found. In essence, the difference is >> "behaves-like" vs. "points-to". >> > > it looks like a difference between intensional vs denotational semantics. > > thanks again > Emmanuel > -- **************************************** Emmanuel Dupoux LSCP - 29 Rue d'Ulm, Pavillon Jardin 75005 Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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