Dear NaviServer community, see below for the current ambitious plans for the Tcl roadmap. The core-team puts a strong emphasis on Tcl9 and names already end-of-support times for Tcl 8.*
all the best -g > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Harald Oehlmann <harald.oehlm...@elmicron.de> > Subject: [TCLCORE] Monday noon TCL/Tk meeting report > Date: 28. October 2024 at 14:33:20 GMT+1 > To: Tcl Core List <tcl-c...@lists.sourceforge.net> > > Dear TCL/Tk/OpenACS/Naviserver team, > > we had a great meeting today with: Don, Jan, Rolf, Paul, Brian, Massimo, > Ashok, Andreas Kupries, Andreas Leitgreb, Mark, Steve, Harald. > > The results are: > > R1) TCL/Tk 9.0.0 release is great ! Thanks for all contributors ! > > R2) TCL/Tk 9.0.1 is the next step > - release process starts in December 2024 > - developed in main branches > - address double-distribution of 8.6 and 9.0 by Linux maintainers > - TIP 701 (tilde API) included > - TIP 700 (MD documentation) eventually started > > R3) TCL 8.6 support > - proposed support time: until end 2025 > - all major packages and distributions should be ported to 9.0 > - but some will only switch, if 8.6 declared as unsupported > - specially Tk 9 offers so much practical value, that Tk8.6 is seen as > obsolete (scaled interface, updated themes) > - no new features for 8.6, sorry, only bug back-porting > > R4) TCL 8.7 release > - discussion point > - most just want to focus on 9.0 > - 8.6 is easy for migration for 8.6 packages: > - TCL_CHAR size with 16 bit interface is available > - TCL_CHAR size with 32 bit interface (like 9.0) is also available > - No surrogates (like 8.6.11+) > - 8.7 is better than 8.6 as compatible 9.0 extensions are included (full > Unicode) > - major player like AndroWish are supposed to directly go to 9.0 > - if released, 8.6 should be taken out of maintenance to avoid double-burden > - first possible release in 1 year. All bugfixes of 9.0 are back-ported, so > 8.7. is getting better > - Debian co-maintainer pointed out, that distributions do not have resources > for multiple versions. So, only one version is best, max 2, not 3. > > R5) TCL 9.1 release > - will be started when 9.0 is stable (not now) > - TIP 626 (long number of command arguments) is binary incompatible and will > wait for 9.1 > - now we have long strings and lists, we should work on its performance. > - decodings currently also have performance issues and are sometimes issued > multiple times > - drop support for ITCL > > R6) Decoupling of TCL and Tk release > - There is a strong support to decouple TCL and Tk (minor) releases > - Don is ready to release Tk separately at any time > - Major Tk people were missing in the call > - Eventually own infra-structure: TIP, Team > It would be great to build-up a Tk team and a working way. > Any people for a task force? > > R7) Documentation > - The new documentation project is seen as important to get wider audience > - Help is proposed to advance - Torsten must not do all the work > > R8) Extensions > - Porting all extensions to 9 is a main step to put energy in > - Get tests for larger strings/lists > - make valgrind cleaner for extensions > - Massimo is the Debian maintainer for TDBC. He proposed (before) to be the > tdbc packages maintainer. I would say: yes, just do it, great, applause! > > It is proposed to repeat those meetings each two weeks on Mondays at 12:00 > UTC. The next meeting will take place 11th of November 2025. > > Thank you all, you guys rock ! > Harald > > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-Core mailing list > tcl-c...@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-core
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