Hi Jim, Michele, Carlos,

(responding all in a single email)

What I'm saying is that not neccesarily *all* the bits in the other RIR 
proposal make sense here, but others may do. Many details may be already done 
by the RIPE NCC, others may be not.

So the key idea is that when you enter your LIR portal, you can see a dhasboard 
your "policy compliance" status. Also, that when the tool detects something 
failing (in your case), automatically send you a notification.

If you don't follow policy proposal development (many resource holders don't 
do), when a policy proposal changes an existing policy or there is a new policy 
and you many not be fulfilling that, at some point (when the NCC has the time 
to implement the policy and the automated verification), and in some cases, an 
automated verification will be automatically done and if there is any failure, 
you will get an alert.

A bit longer explanation, but may be now is clearer?

If a resource holder doesn't care, this is not "this" problem ... RSA issue, 
right?

And yes, regarding the ARC question, this could be also implemented in such way 
that if something can't be automated, for example, requires filling in some 
data, the LIR can do and the dashboard, will "re-calculate" if it is correct or 
whatever. Of course we don't want to enter (as much as we can avoid) in 
procedural details. If some cases, it can create a ticket to the ARC team or 
whatever, if can't be done also in that semi-automated way.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 14/5/20 11:54, "Jim Reid" <[email protected]> escribió:



    > On 13 May 2020, at 21:42, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ncc-services-wg 
<[email protected]> wrote:
    > 
    > I've clearly explained in my email that it was basically a copy and paste 
from another RIR proposal, where they are missing things that in RIPE we have 
solved already. Thinks need to be read in context to make sense, and I think it 
makes sense to openly discuss ideas before coming into proposal, right?

    This clarification helps a lot Jordi. Thanks.

    However it doesn’t help in a good way from your PoV. If I understand you 
correctly, you’re promoting a policy proposal from another RIR which solves a 
problem we don’t have in RIPE because it’s already been fixed. Is that correct? 
If so, this doesn’t seem to be a sensible way to proceed or make policy.

    If we are to openly discuss this idea any further, I think you need to 
start with a clear problem statement. What is it that you think needs fixing 
and how does this proposal from another RIR do that? It may well fix their 
problem(s). I don’t know or care about that. I’d like to know what RIPE 
problem(s) it fixes.





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