>> i do not see how one really gets to this place [...] if one buys
>> services above metal as a service (aka MASS).
>
> "Shim the APIs", e.g. Terraform or similar, and use lowest common
> denominator in terms of refined higher-level services.
and what shim do we use on OVH et alia?
>> a side benefit of buying MAAS, is that this brings in emea vendors,
>> not just aws, azure, or goog.
> There are more cloud APIs than those three in EMEA.
two things
o those three are not based in emea. see others' postings on gdpr
and other issues with american providers
o there seem to be extremely few emea based providers above MAAS;
which was my point
randy
