Hi everyone,

In fact, as Artem and Maxim Tulyev said, the threat of physical violence may 
exist.

I would like to show you communication history in the Ukrainian 
Telecommunication community which is called "Telecom Ukraine" ( Of course these 
messages have already been deleted. But we have a grateful option - screenshot.)

Here is the screenshot

Let me translate what's going on in this screenshot.

That's what Alexandr Glushchenko said:
RIPE is "an apolitical" organization, but for the money. When the Russians will 
be shelling Amsterdam, I want to believe in the permanence of their course.

And that's what Olexandr Fedienko replied to his message:
"I am already looking forward to it"

Oleksandr Fedienko is a people's deputy of Ukraine, member of the Committee of 
the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
Alexandr Glushchenko is a former Ukrainian Internet Association board member.

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On Tuesday, November 1st, 2022 at 4:56 PM, Max Tulyev [email protected] wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> 01.11.22 08:13, FAP_IMC пише:
>
>> Здравствуйте, .
>
> The Great Patriot begins his speech in Russian. Nice.
>
>> Dear colleagues, my name is Oleksandr Fedienko.
>> I think it's not every day that parliamentarians write to you here, but 
>> considering that recently I have been mentioned quite often in 
>> correspondence, I want to write something from myself.
>>
>> A little about myself, I started working for an internet company around 1993 
>> and have worked in the digital communications industry all my life.
>> I have personally built many Internet companies, am a certified expert in 
>> cyber security, OSINT, have four higher education degrees, and now have a 
>> master's degree in law.
>>
>> For five years in a row, he was elected to the Internet Association of 
>> Ukraine, becoming the chairman of the board, and defending the interests of 
>> our industry.
>> This is so that you, dear community, have an idea about my competence.
>
> I agree you have deep professional knowledge. That's true. And that's
> really scare me because of the way you use this knowledge.
>
> You was the author or the notorious law draft about the IMEI database,
> which forces mobile operators to stop serving mobile devices does not
> listed in your database. All the market was against it, and it was very
> difficult for us to stop it.
>
> You was the author of the first draft of the law for electronic
> communications. Of course, your lovely IMEI registry was included there,
> as well as obliging ISPs to install the government-controlled devices
> for censorship and surveillance (same as Russia has SORM-3 and TSPU).
> And in general to expand ancient, bureaucratic and bribery-based telco
> regulatory to the Internet. A huge work was done by InAU and other NGOs
> to clean that shit out. Now you are trying to return it back to that law
> step by step by amendments, as during the war time it is very difficult
> to work for NGOs and human right activists in Ukraine.
>
> Also you forget to mention your third new education you got after
> elected to the parliament. You are really excellent in it. You are
> master of lie, disinformation and manipulation. I will show some good
> examples below.
>
>> Unfortunately, in addition to the fact that we need to take care of the 
>> security of our cyberspace, we already have cases when IP addresses, in the 
>> occupied territories of Ukraine, which are routed in the networks of 
>> Ukrainian operators, begin to be re-issued to other companies.
>
> Yes. There are transfers from the territory in distress. But there are
> NO FACTS of ANY forced transfer. This is your manipulation.
>
>> I would like to draw your attention to the fact that we expect that there 
>> may also be a military intervention from the side of Belarus, so the 
>> transfer blocking mechanisms IP adress should be in place throughout Ukraine.
>
> Manipulation. Yes, we afraid of intervention from Belarus. But there is
> NO LOGICAL LINK, nothing to do with "so the transfer blocking mechanisms
> IP adress should be in place throughout Ukraine". You try to make a
> EMOTIONAL link between these two sentences and let it change the logical
> link. Like in media manipulation handbooks, yes?
>
>> I want to draw attention to the instructions for bots that Mr. Maksym is 
>> currently promoting, which is used to form the opinion of a supposedly 
>> community from Ukraine. And also on the not quite modern mechanism of 
>> digital information exchange on the platform of RIPE NCC.
>
> Lie. These people are not bots. These are real IP resource holders (it
> can be easily checked by NCC staff with e-mails) that I woke up. They
> are scare now, and write what they are afraid of.
>
> And of course, I will try to wake up more people whom you try to rob.
>
> Meanwhile, as we can see, your bots can only do a cut and paste.
>
>> I hope that until RIPE NCC implements a secure transfer of IP addresses, all 
>> transfers on the territory of Ukraine will be closed.
>
> Manipulation. RIPE NCC due diligence is secure enough now. There was no
> evidences for any forced transfer inside Ukraine. And for 1000% sure it
> is not a common situation that is too serious to close all Ukrainian
> transfers.
>
> And for the last, I will remind your behavior, such as the style of your
> language and public treats as we found out not only to me. I don't know
> was it enough to be a crime in Europe, but for sure in any European
> country you will be kicked out with disgrace from the parliament just
> next day.
>
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