We know you are good in manipulations. But please, stop it.
It is not your resources. It is not your money. So it is none of your
business what to do with these transfers.
20.12.22 08:33, Олена Кушнір пише:
Good morning, Dear Colleagues
It seems we have been forced to miss such heated discussions.
Forgive us, the UKRAINIAN community, because drones or missiles fall on
us every day, there is no heat, water, and it is not always possible to
even read all the work mail. But we continue to provide free Internet
connection even in heating points, with concern for indomitable
Ukrainians in different parts of the country (small video and photos in
attach)
I apologize for the slow response.
It is difficult for me to imagine what business interests we hurt when
we raised the issue of protecting our IP resources that we do not use
for resale and enrichment. A whole army of people/companies appeared
that have nothing to do with operator activity in Ukraine. And a
well-fed person abroad will never understand a hungry person who is
trying to survive. Because we think every day where to get diesel and
the required number of generators. But analyzing the endless attack and
terror with an endless number of letters, I understand that we are
definitely on the right path.
It has gone so far that someone here even allows themselves to fire the
board members of RIPE NCC
In any case, the topic we raised at the conference did not leave anyone
indifferent, because the topic is very important. And surely the
machinations will not pass easily.
I thank Petter Hans, Athena and each of the board members for your work.
Thank you for the open dialogue. You are incredible and have nerves of
steel. You had to read hundreds of letters with quarrels.
Unfortunately, for the sake of money, people lose face and cross
forbidden red lines.
Thanks to Sander Steffann and the guys from the Keep Ukraine Connected -
Global NOG Alliance project for supporting Ukraine - I want to emphasize
that YOU are our guardian angels! Many operators were able to resume
work in the liberated territories thanks to you. We are in an
inestimable debt to everyone who helps.
Thank you everyone. Hugs
_______________
Best regards,
Olena Kushnir
www.webpro.ua <http://www.webpro.ua>
_______________
Best regards,
Olena Kushnir
www.webpro.ua <http://www.webpro.ua>
19 груд. 2022 р. о 15:30 Sander Steffann <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> написав(ла):
Hi Hans Petter,
After discussions with our Executive Board, we are now ready to begin
implementation of a ‘voluntary registry lock’ in the LIR Portal. This
will be available for all RIPE NCC members, including those in
Ukraine, on an opt-in basis. The lock will allow members to prevent
their resources from being transferred for a defined period. We
expect technical implementation to be completed before the end of the
year.
Awesome! Thank you and the board for getting this difficult step done.
The Board made this resolution taking into account:
- The concerns expressed by Ukrainian members at the RIPE 85 Meeting
in October 2022
- The RIPE NCC’s commitment to be neutral and impartial
- The time needed for the formation of a permanent solution
addressing these concerns through the Policy Development Process (PDP)
- The RIPE community’s support to accommodate a temporary solution
+1 much appreciated!
This resolution comes with an expiry date of 1 July 2023. We hope
that the RIPE community will use this time to agree on a policy
proposal that gives us a clear mandate to provide this lock as a
lasting solution to all members who see the need for it. Our Policy
Officer is available to offer guidance and administrative support to
get the proposal through the RIPE Policy Development Process.
After making so much noise I feel I should volunteer here :)
From comments at RIPE 85, we understand that some people do not think
this should be a policy matter. However, as we explained at that
meeting, the RIPE NCC cannot limit the transfer rights of paying
members without either a solid legal basis or a clear mandate from
the RIPE community.
I still think that limiting an LIR based on their own request
shouldn’t be a problem, but ok, let’s work together on this and get a
policy.
It is in this context that we must note that the lock will not
prevent resources from being transferred in cases of merger or
acquisition. It will also not prevent transfers in cases where a
bankrupt company goes into liquidation.
Sensible limitations, I have no problem with them.
Finally, in my last email, I said that requests from Ukraine would
receive the ‘highest levels of due diligence’, and I want to explain
what this means. In recent years, we have developed a framework that
describes what information our staff will ask for when handling
requests. By applying the strongest approach within this framework,
we will be going beyond our standard requirements and asking to
verify additional documents. With the passing of this resolution,
transfers will follow the process outlined here and will not be
escalated to the Managing Director for approval.
Sounds good, you shouldn’t need to involve yourself in the workflow.
You have very experienced staff for that :)
We hope that our Ukrainian members will understand that this is part
of our efforts to protect their resources.
As mentioned above, we will share more specific information on the
registry lock before the end of the year – including how it can be
activated and by whom, and what it does and does not restrict.
Thank you!
Sander
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