This is also common in UK where British Telecom for example, will request that
your E3 interface be able to ground or float the bnc shield.

Don House wrote:

> One rarely used but real application is where the DS3 coax is run between
> two adjacent central offices across an alley.  This was the case in Chicago
> where the DS3 was a link between AT&T Long Lines and Illinois Bell.  Because
> of possible ground loops the coax was grounded only at one end.  Normally
> this would be a fiber link, but these things do happen occasionally.
>
> Don
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon D. Curtis [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:34 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: DS3 Lightning
>
> DS-3 is also exempt for other reasons.
>
> Section 4.5 specifies application of surge and overvoltage to "paired-cable
> interfaces."  Further the criteria of this section apply to "each
> telecommunications port connecting to an outside plant pair"  DS3 is not a
> paired interface.
>
> They are discussed in section 4.6 which is entitled "Criteria for equipment
> interfacing with coaxial cable ports."  This section replaces section 4.5
> for
> coaxial cables.  It also states "these criteria are not intended for...
> conventional telecommunications services, such as DS3."
>
> All this leaves DS3 without much of a home in section 4 of 1089.  I would
> assume
> that the long duration of the deployment of DS3 has left the RBOCs with a
> good
> strategy of deployment of DS3 (adequate protection devices at the building
> entry) such that they are not experiencing problems with DS3, thus no
> additional
> regulation is needed.  Until we get additional guidance from the RBOCs or
> Telcordia, it would seem the thing to do is to report when DS3 ports exist
> in a
> product so that future revisions of the product may be subject to
> requirements
> when, and if, they become necessary.
>
> I agree with Jim that if the DS3 stays within the building and the shield is
> connected to ground at both ends that no testing would be required under 4.5
> (if
> you consider that applicable at all).  I do however believe that DS3 may
> leave
> the building and that there exist implementations which do not ground the
> shield
> at one end.
>
> -Jon Curtis
>
> JIM WIESE wrote:
>
> > If both ends are intended to be grounded and you state this it in your
> > documentation, intra-building lightning is exempt on a DS-3.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Jim Wiese
> > NEBS Project Manager/Compliance Engineer
> > ADTRAN, INC.
> > 901 Explorer Blvd.
> > P.O. Box 140000
> > Huntsville, AL 35814-4000
> > 256-963-8431
> > 256-963-8250 fax
> > [email protected]
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From:         Joe Finlayson[SMTP:[email protected]]
> > > Reply To:     [email protected]
> > > Sent:         Monday, June 12, 2000 6:00 PM
> > > To:   'NEBS Newsgroup'
> > > Subject:      DS3 Lightning
> > >
> > >
> > >       I am hearing mixed opinions of whether a DS3 Coax interface falls
> > > under the scope of interfaces to be subjected to GR-1089 4.5.9
> > > Intrabuilding
> > > Lightning Surge.  The way I interpret the standard is that it does fall
> > > under the scope as there is no clear definition, that I could find, for
> > > "Telecommunications Port".  I've seen verbiage citing examples, but no
> > > clear
> > > definition.  This interface will not connect to outside plant and I do
> > > wish
> > > to claim shielded cables with grounds at both ends to avoid the testing.
> > > The scope of Section 4.6 clearly eliminates DS3 as part of that section.
> > > The program team is against testing it and I would not like to see a
> > > prospective customer reject the report.  Any and all feedback and
> opinions
> > > from the group (RBOC's especially) would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thx,
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > *********************************
> > >  <<...>>
> > >
> > > Joe Finlayson
> > > Manager, Compliance Engineering
> > > Telica, Inc.
> > > 734 Forest Street, Bldg. G, Suite 100
> > > Marlboro, MA 01752
> > > Tel:  (508) 480-0909 x212
> > > Fax:  (508) 480-0922
> > > Email:        [email protected]
> > > Web:  www.telica.com
> > >
>
> --
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>
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